Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
If he can fix the turnstile he should win coach of the year.
I don't think it's "fixing" as much as mitigating. IOW, tweaking the blocking schemes so that he's rarely 1v1 against the fatties.
I hear ya, but the fatal flaw in that is then you limit what you do offensively. I mean, how does it affect an offense when you need the guards to constantly help him? So you tweak to his very few positives (movement, second level engagement) and that gets predictable, especially situationally which is where teams win and lose games. Just sayin'. I don't mean to be the Bradbury doomsayer, the guy that is the broken record about the guy, I really don't...he's just the player I have the most problem with on the team currently.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
If he can fix the turnstile he should win coach of the year.
I don't think it's "fixing" as much as mitigating. IOW, tweaking the blocking schemes so that he's rarely 1v1 against the fatties.
I hear ya, but the fatal flaw in that is then you limit what you do offensively. I mean, how does it affect an offense when you need the guards to constantly help him? So you tweak to his very few positives (movement, second level engagement) and that gets predictable, especially situationally which is where teams win and lose games. Just sayin'.
It's not without downside, but the Rams seemed not to suffer too much.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
If he can fix the turnstile he should win coach of the year.
I don't think it's "fixing" as much as mitigating. IOW, tweaking the blocking schemes so that he's rarely 1v1 against the fatties.
I hear ya, but the fatal flaw in that is then you limit what you do offensively. I mean, how does it affect an offense when you need the guards to constantly help him? So you tweak to his very few positives (movement, second level engagement) and that gets predictable, especially situationally which is where teams win and lose games. Just sayin'.
It's not without downside, but the Rams seemed not to suffer too much.
But the Vikings aren't the Rams.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
If he can fix the turnstile he should win coach of the year.
I don't think it's "fixing" as much as mitigating. IOW, tweaking the blocking schemes so that he's rarely 1v1 against the fatties.
I hear ya, but the fatal flaw in that is then you limit what you do offensively. I mean, how does it affect an offense when you need the guards to constantly help him? So you tweak to his very few positives (movement, second level engagement) and that gets predictable, especially situationally which is where teams win and lose games. Just sayin'.
It's not without downside, but the Rams seemed not to suffer too much.
But the Vikings aren't the Rams.
LOL. Astute.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
If he can fix the turnstile he should win coach of the year.
I don't think it's "fixing" as much as mitigating. IOW, tweaking the blocking schemes so that he's rarely 1v1 against the fatties.
I hear ya, but the fatal flaw in that is then you limit what you do offensively. I mean, how does it affect an offense when you need the guards to constantly help him? So you tweak to his very few positives (movement, second level engagement) and that gets predictable, especially situationally which is where teams win and lose games. Just sayin'.
It's not without downside, but the Rams seemed not to suffer too much.
But the Vikings aren't the Rams.
LOL. Astute.
lol, but you seem to be comparing them as like they could be. lol, I'm not trying to bust your balls, MB. I like your positive takes.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
If he can fix the turnstile he should win coach of the year.
I don't think it's "fixing" as much as mitigating. IOW, tweaking the blocking schemes so that he's rarely 1v1 against the fatties.
I hear ya, but the fatal flaw in that is then you limit what you do offensively. I mean, how does it affect an offense when you need the guards to constantly help him? So you tweak to his very few positives (movement, second level engagement) and that gets predictable, especially situationally which is where teams win and lose games. Just sayin'.
It's not without downside, but the Rams seemed not to suffer too much.
But the Vikings aren't the Rams.
I mean, they both have horns on their helmets.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
If he can fix the turnstile he should win coach of the year.
I don't think it's "fixing" as much as mitigating. IOW, tweaking the blocking schemes so that he's rarely 1v1 against the fatties.
I hear ya, but the fatal flaw in that is then you limit what you do offensively. I mean, how does it affect an offense when you need the guards to constantly help him? So you tweak to his very few positives (movement, second level engagement) and that gets predictable, especially situationally which is where teams win and lose games. Just sayin'.
It's not without downside, but the Rams seemed not to suffer too much.
But the Vikings aren't the Rams.
LOL. Astute.
lol, but you seem to be comparing them as like they could be. lol, I'm not trying to bust your balls, MB. I like your positive takes.
Comparing the Vikings to the Rams? No. I'm comparing their center situations, and how the Rams and O'Connell successfully mitigated weak center play schematically. Y'know, like in the article. Not sure how one could possibly interpret that as me comparing the two teams as a whole.
But if you want me to I will! I think the Vikings offense has the potential to be as good as, or even better than, the Rams were last year. On defense, no. Not without Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey. I'll be happy with league average.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
If he can fix the turnstile he should win coach of the year.
I don't think it's "fixing" as much as mitigating. IOW, tweaking the blocking schemes so that he's rarely 1v1 against the fatties.
I hear ya, but the fatal flaw in that is then you limit what you do offensively. I mean, how does it affect an offense when you need the guards to constantly help him? So you tweak to his very few positives (movement, second level engagement) and that gets predictable, especially situationally which is where teams win and lose games. Just sayin'.
It's not without downside, but the Rams seemed not to suffer too much.
But the Vikings aren't the Rams.
LOL. Astute.
lol, but you seem to be comparing them as like they could be. lol, I'm not trying to bust your balls, MB. I like your positive takes.
Comparing the Vikings to the Rams? No. I'm comparing their center situations, and how the Rams and O'Connell successfully mitigated weak center play schematically. Y'know, like in the article. Not sure how one could possibly interpret that as me comparing the two teams as a whole.
But if you want me to I will! I think the Vikings offense has the potential to be as good as, or even better than, the Rams were last year. On defense, no. Not without Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey. I'll be happy with league average.
Word. Potential is a four letter word in the NFL. I'll need to see it, but I will say I can see the potential. It's going to be a fun season, methinks.
I agree with Maroon (and the article), that we could see some "improvement" from Bradbury just by the new scheme. The one thing I liked about the Rams offense is they are very multiple on offense... meaning they can run different plays (run or pass) out of the same formation and they use a lot of motion to confuse defenses. We haven't had that since Shurmur was here as an OC.
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