Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
This seems to be the group that will be available for the Vikings when they pick 12th. You happy to stay and select one of these guys?
Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington
Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia
Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa
David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan
Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia
Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M
Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State
If Minnesota decides to trade down but still wants a safety, what about this guy?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dax-hill/3...3ebbf2d838
I'd shorten the list a bit. Love Lloyd and Dean, but we probably won't be taking LB depth in the 1st. Ojabo is great, but I doubt he goes in the 1st round with an injury that will keep him out all of '22. Remove all OLs... add in Stingley (not sure why he's not on the list) and you're left with....
The reason being I'm seeing more and more mocks with Stingley going top 10. Obviously, if he's around he's probably top of that list for sure.
I think there's an even chance he's on the board at 12. Sure, there are a thousand draft experts this time of year, but if you eliminate the "Walters" of the world and focus on those who typically know what they're talking about (Daniel Jeremiah, Chris Simms, Dane Brugler, Thor Nystrom, Lance Zierlein who does all the NFL.com write ups), every single one of them now has Stingley ranked after McDuffie.
I would bet very good money that Stingley goes in the top 11 picks. Actually, if he gets to #11 I know of 3-4 teams that are eyeing moving ahead of MN for him. So if Stingley ends up in MN its going to have to be via a trade up.
Yeah, that's what I've been reading.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
This seems to be the group that will be available for the Vikings when they pick 12th. You happy to stay and select one of these guys?
Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington
Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia
Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa
David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan
Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia
Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M
Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State
If Minnesota decides to trade down but still wants a safety, what about this guy?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dax-hill/3...3ebbf2d838
I think there will end up being better players available at #12 but I think if you kind of look at the inverse there are probably a set of players the Vikings would sit on #12 for:
Would Stay at #12 and draft:
- Aidan Hutchinson / Travon Walker / Kayvon Thib
- Sauce Gardner / Derick Stingley
Likely would Stay at #12 and draft but could move down for a "Great" trade offer:
- Kyle Hamilton
- Garrett Wilson / Jameson Williams
After that I think they would look to slide back a few slots if the offer is reasonable. If they couldn't I think they're picking out of the pool of:
- Trent McDuffie
- Drake London
- Jermaine Johnson
- Devonte Wyatt
There is no way that 2-3 OTs won't go in the top 11. The question is whether a QB pushes another player down since that guarantees a player from that middle tier.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
What do we get for trading back? How far do we have to drop?
I still think i grab Hamilton at 12 if he's there unless we can stay in the top 25 and pick up an extra first next year. I dont give up a chance at Hamilton or a couple of those other names for an extra day 2 pick.
I think if the Vikings knew they could still get McDuffie and trade down, they'd do it. But that's the risky part. And like you say, for what and how far down?
I'm reading that teams have real concern about Hamilton's lack of speed.
I heard that some teams have concerns about coverage skills due to his lack of speed. Red Flag for me, but not as big of a red flag as someone who has a great combine or pro day workout but doesn't have good film to back it up.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
This seems to be the group that will be available for the Vikings when they pick 12th. You happy to stay and select one of these guys?
Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington
Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia
Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa
David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan
Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia
Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M
Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State
If Minnesota decides to trade down but still wants a safety, what about this guy?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dax-hill/3...3ebbf2d838
I'd shorten the list a bit. Love Lloyd and Dean, but we probably won't be taking LB depth in the 1st. Ojabo is great, but I doubt he goes in the 1st round with an injury that will keep him out all of '22. Remove all OLs... add in Stingley (not sure why he's not on the list) and you're left with....
The reason being I'm seeing more and more mocks with Stingley going top 10. Obviously, if he's around he's probably top of that list for sure.
I think there's an even chance he's on the board at 12. Sure, there are a thousand draft experts this time of year, but if you eliminate the "Walters" of the world and focus on those who typically know what they're talking about (Daniel Jeremiah, Chris Simms, Dane Brugler, Thor Nystrom, Lance Zierlein who does all the NFL.com write ups), every single one of them now has Stingley ranked after McDuffie.
I would bet very good money that Stingley goes in the top 11 picks. Actually, if he gets to #11 I know of 3-4 teams that are eyeing moving ahead of MN for him. So if Stingley ends up in MN its going to have to be via a trade up.
Like I i said, I think there's an even chance he's there at 12. But it just takes one team to like him more than another. And I'm sure there are several teams who don't have the concerns that many others do.
One player who's not on this list who could also be there is Kayvon Thibodeaux.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
This seems to be the group that will be available for the Vikings when they pick 12th. You happy to stay and select one of these guys?
Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington
Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia
Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa
David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan
Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia
Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M
Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State
If Minnesota decides to trade down but still wants a safety, what about this guy?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dax-hill/3...3ebbf2d838
I'd shorten the list a bit. Love Lloyd and Dean, but we probably won't be taking LB depth in the 1st. Ojabo is great, but I doubt he goes in the 1st round with an injury that will keep him out all of '22. Remove all OLs... add in Stingley (not sure why he's not on the list) and you're left with....
The reason being I'm seeing more and more mocks with Stingley going top 10. Obviously, if he's around he's probably top of that list for sure.
I think there's an even chance he's on the board at 12. Sure, there are a thousand draft experts this time of year, but if you eliminate the "Walters" of the world and focus on those who typically know what they're talking about (Daniel Jeremiah, Chris Simms, Dane Brugler, Thor Nystrom, Lance Zierlein who does all the NFL.com write ups), every single one of them now has Stingley ranked after McDuffie.
I would bet very good money that Stingley goes in the top 11 picks. Actually, if he gets to #11 I know of 3-4 teams that are eyeing moving ahead of MN for him. So if Stingley ends up in MN its going to have to be via a trade up.
There is that meaningless Chicago win @ seasons end biting us in the asz again...I was really hoping Stingley was going to be there @ 12.
This talk of Hamilton falling to the Vikings is a fan pipe-dream imo.
I'm curious to see how/if the new brain trust @ Eagan uses their approaches to maneuver around this draft. And I wonder who they really love vs who they're luke warm to.
I agree with an earlier post you made - dont sleep on the Vikings taking a WR high and in the 1st rd too.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
This seems to be the group that will be available for the Vikings when they pick 12th. You happy to stay and select one of these guys?
Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington
Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia
Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa
David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan
Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia
Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M
Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State
If Minnesota decides to trade down but still wants a safety, what about this guy?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dax-hill/3...3ebbf2d838
I'd shorten the list a bit. Love Lloyd and Dean, but we probably won't be taking LB depth in the 1st. Ojabo is great, but I doubt he goes in the 1st round with an injury that will keep him out all of '22. Remove all OLs... add in Stingley (not sure why he's not on the list) and you're left with....
The reason being I'm seeing more and more mocks with Stingley going top 10. Obviously, if he's around he's probably top of that list for sure.
I think there's an even chance he's on the board at 12. Sure, there are a thousand draft experts this time of year, but if you eliminate the "Walters" of the world and focus on those who typically know what they're talking about (Daniel Jeremiah, Chris Simms, Dane Brugler, Thor Nystrom, Lance Zierlein who does all the NFL.com write ups), every single one of them now has Stingley ranked after McDuffie.
I would bet very good money that Stingley goes in the top 11 picks. Actually, if he gets to #11 I know of 3-4 teams that are eyeing moving ahead of MN for him. So if Stingley ends up in MN its going to have to be via a trade up.
There is that meaningless Chicago win @ seasons end biting us in the asz again...I was really hoping Stingley was going to be there @ 12.
This talk of Hamilton falling to the Vikings is a fan pipe-dream imo.
I'm curious to see how/if the new brain trust @ Eagan uses their approaches to maneuver around this draft. And I wonder who they really love vs who they're luke warm to.
I agree with an earlier post you made - dont sleep on the Vikings taking a WR high and in the 1st rd too.
There is that meaningless Chicago win @ seasons end biting us in the asz again - Yep. I appreciate the fact that the Wilfs aren't owners who love to storm in and make coaches do things, but they should have told Zimmer not to play the starters prior to the game, especially if they were planning on firing him anyway. The majority of fans wanted to see the young guys play anyway so it wouldnt have been that bad.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
This seems to be the group that will be available for the Vikings when they pick 12th. You happy to stay and select one of these guys?
Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington
Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia
Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa
David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan
Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia
Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M
Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State
If Minnesota decides to trade down but still wants a safety, what about this guy?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dax-hill/3...3ebbf2d838
I'd shorten the list a bit. Love Lloyd and Dean, but we probably won't be taking LB depth in the 1st. Ojabo is great, but I doubt he goes in the 1st round with an injury that will keep him out all of '22. Remove all OLs... add in Stingley (not sure why he's not on the list) and you're left with....
The reason being I'm seeing more and more mocks with Stingley going top 10. Obviously, if he's around he's probably top of that list for sure.
I think there's an even chance he's on the board at 12. Sure, there are a thousand draft experts this time of year, but if you eliminate the "Walters" of the world and focus on those who typically know what they're talking about (Daniel Jeremiah, Chris Simms, Dane Brugler, Thor Nystrom, Lance Zierlein who does all the NFL.com write ups), every single one of them now has Stingley ranked after McDuffie.
I would bet very good money that Stingley goes in the top 11 picks. Actually, if he gets to #11 I know of 3-4 teams that are eyeing moving ahead of MN for him. So if Stingley ends up in MN its going to have to be via a trade up.
There is that meaningless Chicago win @ seasons end biting us in the asz again...I was really hoping Stingley was going to be there @ 12.
This talk of Hamilton falling to the Vikings is a fan pipe-dream imo.
I'm curious to see how/if the new brain trust @ Eagan uses their approaches to maneuver around this draft. And I wonder who they really love vs who they're luke warm to.
I agree with an earlier post you made - dont sleep on the Vikings taking a WR high and in the 1st rd too.
From a fan perspective, I agree. From a player perspective when you have roster bonuses and incentives to play for, I disagree. Unless the Wilf's wanted to write a bunch of checks that'd have hit the 2022 cap it makes more sense to allow the game to play out naturally.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
This seems to be the group that will be available for the Vikings when they pick 12th. You happy to stay and select one of these guys?
Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington
Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia
Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa
David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan
Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia
Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M
Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State
If Minnesota decides to trade down but still wants a safety, what about this guy?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dax-hill/3...3ebbf2d838
I'd shorten the list a bit. Love Lloyd and Dean, but we probably won't be taking LB depth in the 1st. Ojabo is great, but I doubt he goes in the 1st round with an injury that will keep him out all of '22. Remove all OLs... add in Stingley (not sure why he's not on the list) and you're left with....
The reason being I'm seeing more and more mocks with Stingley going top 10. Obviously, if he's around he's probably top of that list for sure.
I think there's an even chance he's on the board at 12. Sure, there are a thousand draft experts this time of year, but if you eliminate the "Walters" of the world and focus on those who typically know what they're talking about (Daniel Jeremiah, Chris Simms, Dane Brugler, Thor Nystrom, Lance Zierlein who does all the NFL.com write ups), every single one of them now has Stingley ranked after McDuffie.
I would bet very good money that Stingley goes in the top 11 picks. Actually, if he gets to #11 I know of 3-4 teams that are eyeing moving ahead of MN for him. So if Stingley ends up in MN its going to have to be via a trade up.
There is that meaningless Chicago win @ seasons end biting us in the asz again...I was really hoping Stingley was going to be there @ 12.
This talk of Hamilton falling to the Vikings is a fan pipe-dream imo.
I'm curious to see how/if the new brain trust @ Eagan uses their approaches to maneuver around this draft. And I wonder who they really love vs who they're luke warm to.
I agree with an earlier post you made - dont sleep on the Vikings taking a WR high and in the 1st rd too.
From a fan perspective, I agree. From a player perspective when you have roster bonuses and incentives to play for, I disagree. Unless the Wilf's wanted to write a bunch of checks that'd have hit the 2022 cap it makes more sense to allow the game to play out naturally.
I get it...
Just being a whiney fan lamenting two years in row of Chicago season ending wins costing us draft position.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
What do we get for trading back? How far do we have to drop?
I still think i grab Hamilton at 12 if he's there unless we can stay in the top 25 and pick up an extra first next year. I dont give up a chance at Hamilton or a couple of those other names for an extra day 2 pick.
I think if the Vikings knew they could still get McDuffie and trade down, they'd do it. But that's the risky part. And like you say, for what and how far down?
I'm reading that teams have real concern about Hamilton's lack of speed.
1 week from the draft... I am hearing a lot of shit being floated about almost every player. I am guessing that Hamilton buzz is coming from teams hoping he will drop to them so they can get a shot at him. kind of like mcduffie's height, and a lot of the other arbitrary stuff that comes out.... for me its this, Hamilton was a stud, even against high level talent, his foot speed wasnt an issue. I grab him and dont look back.
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