Wait how did the keystone pipeline have anything to do with our gas prices? It was to move Canadian oil to be exported….
Also pressuring opec to produce more to lower gas prices is what every president has done. There are but only a couple factora that set the pricing. Opec, and domestic refining. So if you want more expensive gas then I guess yeah you could criticize him.
For me until the auto industry is putting out more electric vehicles (seems about 5 years out) and there is a good charging infrastructure, which we shouldd be passing funding for. I wouldnlike to continue to see lower gas prices. At least affordable.
Seems to me he’s walking AND chewing bubblegum.
Quote: @Viking1987 said:
Biden needs to resign disgraceful totally clueless
LOL….be careful what you wish for.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Viking1987 said:
Biden needs to resign disgraceful totally clueless
LOL….be careful what you wish for.
yeah... no.
Quote: @Mike Olson said:
Wait how did the keystone pipeline have anything to do with our gas prices? It was to move Canadian oil to be exported….
Also pressuring opec to produce more to lower gas prices is what every president has done. There are but only a couple factora that set the pricing. Opec, and domestic refining. So if you want more expensive gas then I guess yeah you could criticize him.
For me until the auto industry is putting out more electric vehicles (seems about 5 years out) and there is a good charging infrastructure, which we shouldd be passing funding for. I wouldnlike to continue to see lower gas prices. At least affordable.
Seems to me he’s walking AND chewing bubblegum.
Oil prices are caused by global demand. Getting Canadian oil to market efficently helps everyone.
Our problem is caused by refining capacity. Ours are mainly set up to refine light sweet. Theyre not set up to process heavy sour crude exstracted from Canada’s tar sands.
Electric cars dont solve our problems. We still need to extract the materials for batteries and figure out how to beef up the current grid to meet higher demand. California for instance, cant power everyones house if its to hot.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Mike Olson said:
Wait how did the keystone pipeline have anything to do with our gas prices? It was to move Canadian oil to be exported….
Also pressuring opec to produce more to lower gas prices is what every president has done. There are but only a couple factora that set the pricing. Opec, and domestic refining. So if you want more expensive gas then I guess yeah you could criticize him.
For me until the auto industry is putting out more electric vehicles (seems about 5 years out) and there is a good charging infrastructure, which we shouldd be passing funding for. I wouldnlike to continue to see lower gas prices. At least affordable.
Seems to me he’s walking AND chewing bubblegum.
Oil prices are caused by global demand. Getting Canadian oil to market efficently helps everyone.
Our problem is caused by refining capacity. Ours are mainly set up to refine light sweet. Theyre not set up to process heavy sour crude exstracted from Canada’s tar sands.
Electric cars dont solve our problems. We still need to extract the materials for batteries and figure out how to beef up the current grid to meet higher demand. California for instance, cant power everyones house if its to hot.
1. The world has enough oil reserves ready if necessary, it doesn't need the extraction of more from the tar sands. The only parties who believe this lie are Transcanada and the majority foreign off takers on discounted prices (leverage to negotiate with other global suppliers). Most economists put that impact of pipeline vs no pipeline at $4 per barrel. Factoring in the cost of carbon, the "price savings" difference is negligible. If anyone was going to feel a price difference, it was the US midwest with a rising price per gallon.
2. Yes, the tar sands are heavy and produce the most CO2 of any oil product extracted. This the reason why the Alberta Cap and Trade system is the oldest in the Western Hemisphere, extraction in the province is Canada's number 1 driver of CO2 emissions. The whole world outside of oil and gas shareholders understand the impact of rising levels of CO2, it is settled science, this isn't debatable.
3. No one said electric cars solve our problems. They are a part of the solution, much like taking an antibiotic for an infected open wound. It helps but its not end all be all if you don't apply other necessary techniques. Beefing up the current grid is a US infrastructure issue that has little to do with technology and more to do with years of lobbying and special interest. See ERCOT.
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Mike Olson said:
Wait how did the keystone pipeline have anything to do with our gas prices? It was to move Canadian oil to be exported….
Also pressuring opec to produce more to lower gas prices is what every president has done. There are but only a couple factora that set the pricing. Opec, and domestic refining. So if you want more expensive gas then I guess yeah you could criticize him.
For me until the auto industry is putting out more electric vehicles (seems about 5 years out) and there is a good charging infrastructure, which we shouldd be passing funding for. I wouldnlike to continue to see lower gas prices. At least affordable.
Seems to me he’s walking AND chewing bubblegum.
Oil prices are caused by global demand. Getting Canadian oil to market efficently helps everyone.
Our problem is caused by refining capacity. Ours are mainly set up to refine light sweet. Theyre not set up to process heavy sour crude exstracted from Canada’s tar sands.
Electric cars dont solve our problems. We still need to extract the materials for batteries and figure out how to beef up the current grid to meet higher demand. California for instance, cant power everyones house if its to hot.
1. The world has enough oil reserves ready if necessary, it doesn't need the extraction of more from the tar sands. The only parties who believe this lie are Transcanada and the majority foreign off takers on discounted prices (leverage to negotiate with other global suppliers). Most economists put that impact of pipeline vs no pipeline at $4 per barrel. Factoring in the cost of carbon, the "price savings" difference is negligible. If anyone was going to feel a price difference, it was the US midwest with a rising price per gallon.
2. Yes, the tar sands are heavy and produce the most CO2 of any oil product extracted. This the reason why the Alberta Cap and Trade system is the oldest in the Western Hemisphere, extraction in the province is Canada's number 1 driver of CO2 emissions. The whole world outside of oil and gas shareholders understand the impact of rising levels of CO2, it is settled science, this isn't debatable.
3. No one said electric cars solve our problems. They are a part of the solution, much like taking an antibiotic for an infected open wound. It helps but its not end all be all if you don't apply other necessary techniques. Beefing up the current grid is a US infrastructure issue that has little to do with technology and more to do with years of lobbying and special interest. See ERCOT.
that is quite likely the most unscientific statement possible.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Mike Olson said:
Wait how did the keystone pipeline have anything to do with our gas prices? It was to move Canadian oil to be exported….
Also pressuring opec to produce more to lower gas prices is what every president has done. There are but only a couple factora that set the pricing. Opec, and domestic refining. So if you want more expensive gas then I guess yeah you could criticize him.
For me until the auto industry is putting out more electric vehicles (seems about 5 years out) and there is a good charging infrastructure, which we shouldd be passing funding for. I wouldnlike to continue to see lower gas prices. At least affordable.
Seems to me he’s walking AND chewing bubblegum.
Oil prices are caused by global demand. Getting Canadian oil to market efficently helps everyone.
Our problem is caused by refining capacity. Ours are mainly set up to refine light sweet. Theyre not set up to process heavy sour crude exstracted from Canada’s tar sands.
Electric cars dont solve our problems. We still need to extract the materials for batteries and figure out how to beef up the current grid to meet higher demand. California for instance, cant power everyones house if its to hot.
1. The world has enough oil reserves ready if necessary, it doesn't need the extraction of more from the tar sands. The only parties who believe this lie are Transcanada and the majority foreign off takers on discounted prices (leverage to negotiate with other global suppliers). Most economists put that impact of pipeline vs no pipeline at $4 per barrel. Factoring in the cost of carbon, the "price savings" difference is negligible. If anyone was going to feel a price difference, it was the US midwest with a rising price per gallon.
2. Yes, the tar sands are heavy and produce the most CO2 of any oil product extracted. This the reason why the Alberta Cap and Trade system is the oldest in the Western Hemisphere, extraction in the province is Canada's number 1 driver of CO2 emissions. The whole world outside of oil and gas shareholders understand the impact of rising levels of CO2, it is settled science, this isn't debatable.
3. No one said electric cars solve our problems. They are a part of the solution, much like taking an antibiotic for an infected open wound. It helps but its not end all be all if you don't apply other necessary techniques. Beefing up the current grid is a US infrastructure issue that has little to do with technology and more to do with years of lobbying and special interest. See ERCOT.
that is quite likely the most unscientific statement possible.
Your hypothesis is tested and true. Proven again and again.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Mike Olson said:
Wait how did the keystone pipeline have anything to do with our gas prices? It was to move Canadian oil to be exported….
Also pressuring opec to produce more to lower gas prices is what every president has done. There are but only a couple factora that set the pricing. Opec, and domestic refining. So if you want more expensive gas then I guess yeah you could criticize him.
For me until the auto industry is putting out more electric vehicles (seems about 5 years out) and there is a good charging infrastructure, which we shouldd be passing funding for. I wouldnlike to continue to see lower gas prices. At least affordable.
Seems to me he’s walking AND chewing bubblegum.
Oil prices are caused by global demand. Getting Canadian oil to market efficently helps everyone.
Our problem is caused by refining capacity. Ours are mainly set up to refine light sweet. Theyre not set up to process heavy sour crude exstracted from Canada’s tar sands.
Electric cars dont solve our problems. We still need to extract the materials for batteries and figure out how to beef up the current grid to meet higher demand. California for instance, cant power everyones house if its to hot.
1. The world has enough oil reserves ready if necessary, it doesn't need the extraction of more from the tar sands. The only parties who believe this lie are Transcanada and the majority foreign off takers on discounted prices (leverage to negotiate with other global suppliers). Most economists put that impact of pipeline vs no pipeline at $4 per barrel. Factoring in the cost of carbon, the "price savings" difference is negligible. If anyone was going to feel a price difference, it was the US midwest with a rising price per gallon.
2. Yes, the tar sands are heavy and produce the most CO2 of any oil product extracted. This the reason why the Alberta Cap and Trade system is the oldest in the Western Hemisphere, extraction in the province is Canada's number 1 driver of CO2 emissions. The whole world outside of oil and gas shareholders understand the impact of rising levels of CO2, it is settled science, this isn't debatable.
3. No one said electric cars solve our problems. They are a part of the solution, much like taking an antibiotic for an infected open wound. It helps but its not end all be all if you don't apply other necessary techniques. Beefing up the current grid is a US infrastructure issue that has little to do with technology and more to do with years of lobbying and special interest. See ERCOT.
that is quite likely the most unscientific statement possible.
Ok, then explain climate science to all of us.
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Mike Olson said:
Wait how did the keystone pipeline have anything to do with our gas prices? It was to move Canadian oil to be exported….
Also pressuring opec to produce more to lower gas prices is what every president has done. There are but only a couple factora that set the pricing. Opec, and domestic refining. So if you want more expensive gas then I guess yeah you could criticize him.
For me until the auto industry is putting out more electric vehicles (seems about 5 years out) and there is a good charging infrastructure, which we shouldd be passing funding for. I wouldnlike to continue to see lower gas prices. At least affordable.
Seems to me he’s walking AND chewing bubblegum.
Oil prices are caused by global demand. Getting Canadian oil to market efficently helps everyone.
Our problem is caused by refining capacity. Ours are mainly set up to refine light sweet. Theyre not set up to process heavy sour crude exstracted from Canada’s tar sands.
Electric cars dont solve our problems. We still need to extract the materials for batteries and figure out how to beef up the current grid to meet higher demand. California for instance, cant power everyones house if its to hot.
1. The world has enough oil reserves ready if necessary, it doesn't need the extraction of more from the tar sands. The only parties who believe this lie are Transcanada and the majority foreign off takers on discounted prices (leverage to negotiate with other global suppliers). Most economists put that impact of pipeline vs no pipeline at $4 per barrel. Factoring in the cost of carbon, the "price savings" difference is negligible. If anyone was going to feel a price difference, it was the US midwest with a rising price per gallon.
2. Yes, the tar sands are heavy and produce the most CO2 of any oil product extracted. This the reason why the Alberta Cap and Trade system is the oldest in the Western Hemisphere, extraction in the province is Canada's number 1 driver of CO2 emissions. The whole world outside of oil and gas shareholders understand the impact of rising levels of CO2, it is settled science, this isn't debatable.
3. No one said electric cars solve our problems. They are a part of the solution, much like taking an antibiotic for an infected open wound. It helps but its not end all be all if you don't apply other necessary techniques. Beefing up the current grid is a US infrastructure issue that has little to do with technology and more to do with years of lobbying and special interest. See ERCOT.
that is quite likely the most unscientific statement possible.
Ok, then explain climate science to all of us.
Easy. Settled science isn't actually science, but political influence.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ Skodin said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Mike Olson said:
Wait how did the keystone pipeline have anything to do with our gas prices? It was to move Canadian oil to be exported….
Also pressuring opec to produce more to lower gas prices is what every president has done. There are but only a couple factora that set the pricing. Opec, and domestic refining. So if you want more expensive gas then I guess yeah you could criticize him.
For me until the auto industry is putting out more electric vehicles (seems about 5 years out) and there is a good charging infrastructure, which we shouldd be passing funding for. I wouldnlike to continue to see lower gas prices. At least affordable.
Seems to me he’s walking AND chewing bubblegum.
Oil prices are caused by global demand. Getting Canadian oil to market efficently helps everyone.
Our problem is caused by refining capacity. Ours are mainly set up to refine light sweet. Theyre not set up to process heavy sour crude exstracted from Canada’s tar sands.
Electric cars dont solve our problems. We still need to extract the materials for batteries and figure out how to beef up the current grid to meet higher demand. California for instance, cant power everyones house if its to hot.
1. The world has enough oil reserves ready if necessary, it doesn't need the extraction of more from the tar sands. The only parties who believe this lie are Transcanada and the majority foreign off takers on discounted prices (leverage to negotiate with other global suppliers). Most economists put that impact of pipeline vs no pipeline at $4 per barrel. Factoring in the cost of carbon, the "price savings" difference is negligible. If anyone was going to feel a price difference, it was the US midwest with a rising price per gallon.
2. Yes, the tar sands are heavy and produce the most CO2 of any oil product extracted. This the reason why the Alberta Cap and Trade system is the oldest in the Western Hemisphere, extraction in the province is Canada's number 1 driver of CO2 emissions. The whole world outside of oil and gas shareholders understand the impact of rising levels of CO2, it is settled science, this isn't debatable.
3. No one said electric cars solve our problems. They are a part of the solution, much like taking an antibiotic for an infected open wound. It helps but its not end all be all if you don't apply other necessary techniques. Beefing up the current grid is a US infrastructure issue that has little to do with technology and more to do with years of lobbying and special interest. See ERCOT.
that is quite likely the most unscientific statement possible.
Ok, then explain climate science to all of us.
Easy. Settled science isn't actually science, but political influence.
No, I want you to explain the science of climate, various gases in the atmosphere (CO2, CH4, Nitrogen, O2), the various components of our atmosphere.
Just explain to me how you think this works, how science (not policy) works.
You say it's debatable, let's have a debate about the science
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