That's the market. You either pay it or you take another seat at the world's worst-luck craps table. What's hard to believe isn't the contract; it's that they almost didn't pay it. It's like you actually WIN at the craps table and instead of banking your winnings, you put it all in on another throw.
FWIW, I think the NFL would be better off if they just announced these deals in terms of cap percentage.
Quote: @JR44 said:
One of the most erratic QBs I have ever seen. He hast totally lost games for his team with his inaccuracy, also does not seem to be any kind of leader. Cowboys should have moved on, but since I am glad they are stuck with each other.
"Prescott has started every game he has played for the Cowboys -- 69 to be exact -- and has not had a losing record as a starter in any of his five seasons. The Cowboys have won the NFC East twice and one playoff game. In 2019, Prescott set career highs in passing yards (4,902) and touchdown passes (30). In 2020, he was on pace to set an NFL record for passing yards with 1,856 in his five starts. He had nine touchdown passes and four interceptions.
We never got to see how the full marriage between Prescott and coach Mike McCarthy would play out because of the coronavirus pandemic that led to a virtual offseason program (Prescott did not participate), and then the quarterback's injury.
With this deal done, Prescott will take part in whatever the 2021 offseason will look like.
It's Prescott's work in the offseason that endears him to teammates. Even last year, Prescott had skill players to his house not far from The Star for workouts on the turf field in his backyard.
The intangibles and leadership cannot be quantified, but Pro Bowl offensive linemen Tyron Smith and Zack Martin, running back Ezekiel Elliott, and receivers Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup and CeeDee Lamb believe in Prescott when the Cowboys are in a late-game situation.
"He's everything that you want in a quarterback ... someone everyone would run through the wall for him," Martin said.
What does it mean that players on the other side of the ball know Prescott will figure out a way to win when things aren't going right for three quarters, much like he did in 2018 against Philadelphia in a Week 14 overtime win.
"It's how he works out," Cowboys linebacker Sean Lee said. "He leads from the front. He's in there lifting with us, he's in there running with us. When he practices, he practices with a certain type of intensity. Like I said, leaders, the first thing they do is lead by example, and there is nobody who leads by example better than Dak."
Not a leader? Hmmmmm... not sure I'm buying that.
Well, we've beaten him straight-up with Cousins, so I'm basically apathetic about this. If Jerruh wants to drop that kind of cash on Dak, fine...he's already upside-down in his investment in Ezekiel.
it is the market but wow he is overpaid and will cap hamstring the cowboys for years. I couldnt be happier!
There's a clear delineation between a small group of truly elite qbs--Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers, Watson, Brady, and potentially Allen, Herbert, and Burrow, versus the 2nd tier--guys like Tannehill, Kirk, Dak, Stafford, Goff, etc.
But there doesn't seem to be any difference in how they get paid. So with an elite guy hogging your cap you still have a realistic chance at contending on a regular basis, but with the rest imo you are relying on luck--some longshot confluence of everything going just right some particular year.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
That's the market. You either pay it or you take another seat at the world's worst-luck craps table. What's hard to believe isn't the contract; it's that they almost didn't pay it. It's like you actually WIN at the craps table and instead of banking your winnings, you put it all in on another throw.
This. Its how the QB game is played in the NFL. Fans react in horror over the contract but what was Dallas SUPPOSED to do? They could much more easily be stuck with a worse QB than Prescott than the odds of finding a better one. Look at Miami now: ready to give up on Tua already because they must see something. Could easily happen to Dallas if they moved on from Prescott.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
That's the market. You either pay it or you take another seat at the world's worst-luck craps table. What's hard to believe isn't the contract; it's that they almost didn't pay it. It's like you actually WIN at the craps table and instead of banking your winnings, you put it all in on another throw.
This. Its how the QB game is played in the NFL. Fans react in horror over the contract but what was Dallas SUPPOSED to do? They could much more easily be stuck with a worse QB than Prescott than the odds of finding a better one. Look at Miami now: ready to give up on Tua already because they must see something. Could easily happen to Dallas if they moved on from Prescott.
But at least they would have had the cap to build a team around a not elite QB, now they have a not elite QB and no cap space to put a team around him to make up for his short comings, and with that much guaranteed they are likely stuck with thus decisions for 3 to 4 years.
I made the argument when the team went after Kirk, that his deal was to high for his production and would limit the teams ability to improve areas of need through FA, and here we are. Even the great and powerful Brez is stumbling with the weight of a real QB contract.. Now Dallas gets to try and figure out how to do the same and will likely meet the same fate.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
That's the market. You either pay it or you take another seat at the world's worst-luck craps table. What's hard to believe isn't the contract; it's that they almost didn't pay it. It's like you actually WIN at the craps table and instead of banking your winnings, you put it all in on another throw.
This. Its how the QB game is played in the NFL. Fans react in horror over the contract but what was Dallas SUPPOSED to do? They could much more easily be stuck with a worse QB than Prescott than the odds of finding a better one. Look at Miami now: ready to give up on Tua already because they must see something. Could easily happen to Dallas if they moved on from Prescott.
But at least they would have had the cap to build a team around a not elite QB, now they have a not elite QB and no cap space to put a team around him to make up for his short comings, and with that much guaranteed they are likely stuck with thus decisions for 3 to 4 years.
I made the argument when the team went after Kirk, that his deal was to high for his production and would limit the teams ability to improve areas of need through FA, and here we are. Even the great and powerful Brez is stumbling with the weight of a real QB contract.. Now Dallas gets to try and figure out how to do the same and will likely meet the same fate.
Yes, you did make this argument, and you're still wrong.
What good is cap space if you don't have a QB capable of winning the Super Bowl? You don't need an "elite" QB to win a Super Bowl, but you do need one capable of winning in the NFL. And that's Dak Prescott. It's also KIrk Cousins. Good Christ, it's not like the Cowboys have Dak and nothing else. It's not like the Vikings have Cousins and nothing else. It's not like they don't also have Thielen, Jefferson, Cook, Hunter, Kendricks, Harry....
If the Vikings listened to you, we wouldn't have Hunter, or Cook, or Cousins. Oh but we'd have cap space!!! LOL.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
That's the market. You either pay it or you take another seat at the world's worst-luck craps table. What's hard to believe isn't the contract; it's that they almost didn't pay it. It's like you actually WIN at the craps table and instead of banking your winnings, you put it all in on another throw.
This. Its how the QB game is played in the NFL. Fans react in horror over the contract but what was Dallas SUPPOSED to do? They could much more easily be stuck with a worse QB than Prescott than the odds of finding a better one. Look at Miami now: ready to give up on Tua already because they must see something. Could easily happen to Dallas if they moved on from Prescott.
But at least they would have had the cap to build a team around a not elite QB, now they have a not elite QB and no cap space to put a team around him to make up for his short comings, and with that much guaranteed they are likely stuck with thus decisions for 3 to 4 years.
I made the argument when the team went after Kirk, that his deal was to high for his production and would limit the teams ability to improve areas of need through FA, and here we are. Even the great and powerful Brez is stumbling with the weight of a real QB contract.. Now Dallas gets to try and figure out how to do the same and will likely meet the same fate.
Agree, it is the market for an elite QB, not one that is very inconsistent and in the middle tier of QBs. The Cowboys are always one of the most overrated teams in the league especially at QB, WR and RB. For some reason, they think that Aikman, Irvin and Smith have still not left and guys like Dak, Cooper and Elliott get treated like they are just a continuation of their big 3 from the past, when the truth is they are no where the players that they predecessors were. I would put Dak and Cousins in the same tier of QBs, similar stats, both capable of having great games, yet not consistent game to game. Overall, I would take Cousins, as he is not a guy who thinks of himself above the rules and would host a party during the beginning of a world wide pandemic. Cowboys will continue to struggle in the league's worst division.
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