Quote: @PurpleCrush said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Do I think the Vikings would consider a QB at #14? Yes. But that is kind of like asking if they would take Sharrif Floyd if he dropped into the early 20's. At some point you pivot.
Personal opinion is that if the Vikings take a QB in round 1 it'll be Fields and they'd pass on Lance and or Mac Jones. People are too harshly criticizing Fields ability to read progressions when the OSU offense doesn't expect him to. He needs at least a year to sit but if he ends up in the right spot he should still end up being the 2nd best QB in the draft class.
Wha is it about Fields that made you form that opinion? Does he have a lot of fans inside the building?
Its my personal evaluation of Fields. If you project him outside of the OSU offense he looks much better. People are bagging on him for playing a role in an offense which isn't indicative of what he is actually capable of.
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
Fields scares the crap out of me. If the dogs were sound asleep before that pick, they wouldn't be afterwards.
I get it, I'm out in left field on the evaluation. But people are too focused on Fields in the OSU offense. His issue is that the OSU offense gives a single read and schemes your target open. So when that doesn't work out, yeah you're going to look bad. When you have a strong gameplan he puts everything together. Look at his BCS Semi-Final tape vs. Clemson. If you put him in an offense with progressions it'll take time but I see zero reason he can't play at a high level in the NFL.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
Do I think the Vikings would consider a QB at #14? Yes. But that is kind of like asking if they would take Sharrif Floyd if he dropped into the early 20's. At some point you pivot.
Personal opinion is that if the Vikings take a QB in round 1 it'll be Fields and they'd pass on Lance and or Mac Jones. People are too harshly criticizing Fields ability to read progressions when the OSU offense doesn't expect him to. He needs at least a year to sit but if he ends up in the right spot he should still end up being the 2nd best QB in the draft class.
If the OSU offense does not require Fields to read progressions, then how do we know he has the ability to work through his progressions, which he will undoubtedly need to do in the NFL? I thought that was a must have skill for NFL QBs?
After seeing Haskins flop coming out of essentially a similar system, Fields seems like a very high risk pick to me.
Quote: @Magnus10 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Do I think the Vikings would consider a QB at #14? Yes. But that is kind of like asking if they would take Sharrif Floyd if he dropped into the early 20's. At some point you pivot.
Personal opinion is that if the Vikings take a QB in round 1 it'll be Fields and they'd pass on Lance and or Mac Jones. People are too harshly criticizing Fields ability to read progressions when the OSU offense doesn't expect him to. He needs at least a year to sit but if he ends up in the right spot he should still end up being the 2nd best QB in the draft class.
If the OSU offense does not require Fields to read progressions, then how do we know he has the ability to work through his progressions, which he will undoubtedly need to do in the NFL? I thought that was a must have skill for NFL QBs?
After seeing Haskins flop coming out of essentially a similar system, Fields seems like a very high risk pick to me.
That's a fair question. As a freshman at Georgia he played well in a more pro-style system. So he hasn't had to develop those skills but he had them at that point.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ Magnus10 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Do I think the Vikings would consider a QB at #14? Yes. But that is kind of like asking if they would take Sharrif Floyd if he dropped into the early 20's. At some point you pivot.
Personal opinion is that if the Vikings take a QB in round 1 it'll be Fields and they'd pass on Lance and or Mac Jones. People are too harshly criticizing Fields ability to read progressions when the OSU offense doesn't expect him to. He needs at least a year to sit but if he ends up in the right spot he should still end up being the 2nd best QB in the draft class.
If the OSU offense does not require Fields to read progressions, then how do we know he has the ability to work through his progressions, which he will undoubtedly need to do in the NFL? I thought that was a must have skill for NFL QBs?
After seeing Haskins flop coming out of essentially a similar system, Fields seems like a very high risk pick to me.
That's a fair question. As a freshman at Georgia he played well in a more pro-style system. So he hasn't had to develop those skills but he had them at that point.
That's a great point. But, man, when he comes off that first read, he's horrific. That stat is more damning than Mac Jones on off schedule throws, which isn't necessarily horrific but almost totally untested.
It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
Fields scares the crap out of me. If the dogs were sound asleep before that pick, they wouldn't be afterwards.
I get it, I'm out in left field on the evaluation. But people are too focused on Fields in the OSU offense. His issue is that the OSU offense gives a single read and schemes your target open. So when that doesn't work out, yeah you're going to look bad. When you have a strong gameplan he puts everything together. Look at his BCS Semi-Final tape vs. Clemson. If you put him in an offense with progressions it'll take time but I see zero reason he can't play at a high level in the NFL.
I agree that Fields will be good, and he might be my favorite QB in the draft. That Clemson game the guy was seriously hurt, but kept on getting up and zinging the ball. He couldn't run away, so he was forced to move around in the pocket and make the downfield throws. He stood tall and went 22 of 28 for 385 with 6 TDs. Yeah, he played big in a game everyone was talking up Lawrence. It won't happen, but I'd love for him to be the guy to fall to us.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide
Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely.
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@ StickyBun said:
It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide
Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely.
Could be. The NFL loves to error on the side of picking these QBs earlier than they probably should, that's for sure.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ StickyBun said:
It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide
Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely.
Could be. The NFL loves to error on the side of picking these QBs earlier than they probably should, that's for sure.
And, it's worked so well for them.
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