Quote: @mblack said:
@ JR44 said:
@ mblack said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
Now will he get the same treatment for hate speech as any other person or will the reaction be different? Imagine a white reciever making disparaging comments about blacks, Hispanics or asians, how quickly would they be on the unemployment line in today's woke culture? Will his minority status get him preferential treatment compared to say that basketball owner that got rushed out by the NBA? I'm not holding my breath.
What he said was absolutely wrong, stupid and uncalled for.
I'm not sure why the need for the labored projection. Anyway since you asked there is a precedence...
Riley Cooper made racial comments in 2013. He was not kicked out of the NFL. As a matter of fact, he played for two more years for the same team.
Luckily for Cooper, the NFL (Roger Goodell) said there was not going to be any additional punishment besides a fine.
So should we apply the same to Jackson since you wanted a comparison?
Lastly, I could use your same bait line by saying...."Cooper's elite status got him preferential treatment" but that would be a cheap shot.
The big difference is that was 2013. Had Drew Brees said what he did 3 months ago, no one would have made one comment about it, but during the current climate he was grilled relentlessly and unfairly. Had Cooper made that comment today, he would be instantly cut, no doubt about it.
Oh so today Brees being grilled is "unfair" but in 2013 it was OK to let Cooper off the hook? So maybe we should ask why Cooper was not grilled in 2013. Remember, I did not attempt the comparison. Jackson's actions alone were terrible.
Brees has been one of the biggest humanitarians in sports. During Hurricane Katrina he was a leader in donating time and resources to rebuilding that community. Yes, it was extremely unfair for the way he was treated. He made a statement on how he felt about standing for the flag. It was not a racial statement. But somehow whether or not you believe in kneeling or standing for the flag is a measurement of whether or not you are racist. No one said it was it was okay for what Cooper said, so do not put words into my statement. I felt like he should have been cut in 2013 just as he would today. And while he was not cut, it does not mean he was not grilled for his statements by players and the media, he was. There was certainly more of an outrage to his remarks than there has been for Jackson's response.
The fact is here we are 2 days after Jackson't statement and there has not been one tweet from any athlete on the situation. Half the NBA weighed in on Brees immediately after his statement.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ JR44 said:
@ mblack said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
Now will he get the same treatment for hate speech as any other person or will the reaction be different? Imagine a white reciever making disparaging comments about blacks, Hispanics or asians, how quickly would they be on the unemployment line in today's woke culture? Will his minority status get him preferential treatment compared to say that basketball owner that got rushed out by the NBA? I'm not holding my breath.
What he said was absolutely wrong, stupid and uncalled for.
I'm not sure why the need for the labored projection. Anyway since you asked there is a precedence...
Riley Cooper made racial comments in 2013. He was not kicked out of the NFL. As a matter of fact, he played for two more years for the same team.
Luckily for Cooper, the NFL (Roger Goodell) said there was not going to be any additional punishment besides a fine.
So should we apply the same to Jackson since you wanted a comparison?
Lastly, I could use your same bait line by saying...."Cooper's elite status got him preferential treatment" but that would be a cheap shot.
The big difference is that was 2013. Had Drew Brees said what he did 3 months ago, no one would have made one comment about it, but during the current climate he was grilled relentlessly and unfairly. Had Cooper made that comment today, he would be instantly cut, no doubt about it.
Oh so today Brees being grilled is "unfair" but in 2013 it was OK to let Cooper off the hook? So maybe we should ask why Cooper was not grilled in 2013. Remember, I did not attempt the comparison. Jackson's actions alone were terrible.
Brees comments were not racist or hateful, he simply said that he cant respect a person ( of any color, religion, or whatever) who disrespects the flag and anthem. That is a position that many many people have that still will stand with those same people as they call for racial equality, they just wont kneel with them and show disrespect.
Cooper took a lot of heat in the media at the time, but as JR said, that was long before the current culture of accountability, had he made those comments in the last couple years I am sure that the outcome would have been much different. I am just curious though, will Jacksons comments get quickly swept aside, or will he be held to current standards of accountability for socially unacceptable or insensitive comments/behavior?
Let just be clear here what Cooper did and what Brees said were no where near the quoting of the offensive psycotic ramblings of Hitler. To equate them in any way is a serious lack of historical context and understanding.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ Nichelle said:
Well, that was stupid.
You can say that again. I am not sure calling it stupid is even enough.
Definitely ignorant.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
Now will he get the same treatment for hate speech as any other person or will the reaction be different? Imagine a white reciever making disparaging comments about blacks, Hispanics or asians, how quickly would they be on the unemployment line in today's woke culture? Will his minority status get him preferential treatment compared to say that basketball owner that got rushed out by the NBA? I'm not holding my breath.
What he said was absolutely wrong, stupid and uncalled for.
I'm not sure why the need for the labored projection. Anyway since you asked there is a precedence...
Riley Cooper made racial comments in 2013. He was not kicked out of the NFL. As a matter of fact, he played for two more years for the same team.
Luckily for Cooper, the NFL (Roger Goodell) said there was not going to be any additional punishment besides a fine.
So should we apply the same to Jackson since you wanted a comparison?
Lastly, I could use your same bait line by saying...."Cooper's elite status got him preferential treatment" but that would be a cheap shot.
2013 was a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGG time ago (in terms of what has happened in our culture since then). In 2013, lots of things were different. Jimmy is talking about NOW. And what has happened to people- in this current culture- who have made racially insensitive comments? I think we all know the answer to that: if they are big enough / powerful enough, they can get off with an apology (or 12). If not, they lose their jobs.
Quote: @pumpf said:
@ mblack said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
Now will he get the same treatment for hate speech as any other person or will the reaction be different? Imagine a white reciever making disparaging comments about blacks, Hispanics or asians, how quickly would they be on the unemployment line in today's woke culture? Will his minority status get him preferential treatment compared to say that basketball owner that got rushed out by the NBA? I'm not holding my breath.
What he said was absolutely wrong, stupid and uncalled for.
I'm not sure why the need for the labored projection. Anyway since you asked there is a precedence...
Riley Cooper made racial comments in 2013. He was not kicked out of the NFL. As a matter of fact, he played for two more years for the same team.
Luckily for Cooper, the NFL (Roger Goodell) said there was not going to be any additional punishment besides a fine.
So should we apply the same to Jackson since you wanted a comparison?
Lastly, I could use your same bait line by saying...."Cooper's elite status got him preferential treatment" but that would be a cheap shot.
2013 was a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGG time ago (in terms of what has happened in our culture since then). In 2013, lots of things were different. Jimmy is talking about NOW. And what has happened to people- in this current culture- who have made racially insensitive comments? I think we all know the answer to that: if they are big enough / powerful enough, they can get off with an apology (or 12). If not, they lose their jobs.
well that owner of that NBA team should have been big enough and he was run out of the league, of course IIRC he had a record of race issues (kinda nuts for an NBA owner of all people to have issue with black people in the modern era of the game, but I guess most plantation owners likely didnt care for the black people making them rich back in that era either.)
Why wont Jackson get held to the same level of vitriol?
That was a messed up statement on his part. It was wrong and completely unacceptable.
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