Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@MaroonBells thank you.
Hill is definitely a risk, but my thought is that 1) we have a CB whisperer in Zim 2) they hung on to Hill through 2 consecutive suspend 3) I think we go to more zone so CB play becomes simpler 4) Kinlaw is the deodorant for the back four
High floor guys was on purpose. No rookie camp. No OTAs. Lots of holes. Jefferson is the perfect example. Top 3 route runner...most pro ready...son of a WR coach...he'll be ready to play. Runyan is another guy...son of a NFL player...can play 4 spots...does Alex Taylor has better upside? Absolutely. Could Taylor compete without a full slate of OTAs? Nfw.
The key to the whole thing is Kinlaw.
The bold is an excellent point.
And I agree that we're probably going to see a different brand of defense that helps mitigate the loss of some experience. Whether that means more zone or not, I don't know, but something.
Hard to bitch about Kinlaw, Ruiz and Williams...
But I would sleep better addressing CB earlier and not hoping they have to scheme to protect too much.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells thank you.
Hill is definitely a risk, but my thought is that 1) we have a CB whisperer in Zim 2) they hung on to Hill through 2 consecutive suspend 3) I think we go to more zone so CB play becomes simpler 4) Kinlaw is the deodorant for the back four
High floor guys was on purpose. No rookie camp. No OTAs. Lots of holes. Jefferson is the perfect example. Top 3 route runner...most pro ready...son of a WR coach...he'll be ready to play. Runyan is another guy...son of a NFL player...can play 4 spots...does Alex Taylor has better upside? Absolutely. Could Taylor compete without a full slate of OTAs? Nfw.
The key to the whole thing is Kinlaw.
The bold is an excellent point.
And I agree that we're probably going to see a different brand of defense that helps mitigate the loss of some experience. Whether that means more zone or not, I don't know, but something.
I keep telling you guys I'm not just another pretty face.
Chinn was the only guy who really needs to be in a zone. New DB coach, New advisor in Dom And That Thing On His Head, and not even a dozen starts out of our top 3 CBs. I think we play a lot of field position ball, and maximize stopping big gains. Again, Kinlaw is the key to unlocking everything.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Hard to bitch about Kinlaw, Ruiz and Williams...
But I would sleep better addressing CB earlier and not hoping they have to scheme to protect too much.
I stayed true to my philosophy of superior line play makes everyone better. I'm counting on the CBs to keep guys in front of them and eliminate YAC.
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells thank you.
Hill is definitely a risk, but my thought is that 1) we have a CB whisperer in Zim 2) they hung on to Hill through 2 consecutive suspend 3) I think we go to more zone so CB play becomes simpler 4) Kinlaw is the deodorant for the back four
High floor guys was on purpose. No rookie camp. No OTAs. Lots of holes. Jefferson is the perfect example. Top 3 route runner...most pro ready...son of a WR coach...he'll be ready to play. Runyan is another guy...son of a NFL player...can play 4 spots...does Alex Taylor has better upside? Absolutely. Could Taylor compete without a full slate of OTAs? Nfw.
The key to the whole thing is Kinlaw.
The bold is an excellent point.
And I agree that we're probably going to see a different brand of defense that helps mitigate the loss of some experience. Whether that means more zone or not, I don't know, but something.
I keep telling you guys I'm not just another pretty face.
Chinn was the only guy who really needs to be in a zone. New DB coach, New advisor in Dom And That Thing On His Head, and not even a dozen starts out of our top 3 CBs. I think we play a lot of field position ball, and maximize stopping big gains. Again, Kinlaw is the key to unlocking everything.
you do understand why we look at you funny when you say that right? i mean your face could make a freight train take a dirt road, but nice job on the draft.
There’s this undertone this year that seems to be the elephant in the room, that being that we’re going to trade up. I would love for us to trade up for Kinlaw, but would anybody’s head blow up if they went up for an OT?? What about a WR?? (I say that only because I’ve seen rumors that they love Lamb).
IF they trade up with 22, then they have to trade down with 25. That would be great and I would be happy, assuming of course that they target and draft someone I want 
If they couldn’t get up far enough for Kinlaw, would anybody mind if we traded out of the first round completely?
Quote: @prairieghost said:
There’s this undertone this year that seems to be the elephant in the room, that being that we’re going to trade up. I would love for us to trade up for Kinlaw, but would anybody’s head blow up if they went up for an OT?? What about a WR?? (I say that only because I’ve seen rumors that they love Lamb).
IF they trade up with 22, then they have to trade down with 25. That would be great and I would be happy, assuming of course that they target and draft someone I want
If they couldn’t get up far enough for Kinlaw, would anybody mind if we traded out of the first round completely?
WR: Skull and brains everywhere...my entire sunroom would look like a scene from Kill Bill...
OT: meh
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@MaroonBells thank you.
Hill is definitely a risk, but my thought is that 1) we have a CB whisperer in Zim 2) they hung on to Hill through 2 consecutive suspend 3) I think we go to more zone so CB play becomes simpler 4) Kinlaw is the deodorant for the back four
High floor guys was on purpose. No rookie camp. No OTAs. Lots of holes. Jefferson is the perfect example. Top 3 route runner...most pro ready...son of a WR coach...he'll be ready to play. Runyan is another guy...son of a NFL player...can play 4 spots...does Alex Taylor has better upside? Absolutely. Could Taylor compete without a full slate of OTAs? Nfw.
The key to the whole thing is Kinlaw.
Just curious: If Kinlaw goes at 9 or whatever and the Vikings can't get him, how would you alter your draft strategy at that point? CB with the first pick and then everything else about the same? Or more drastic changes?
Quote: @pattersaur said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells thank you.
Hill is definitely a risk, but my thought is that 1) we have a CB whisperer in Zim 2) they hung on to Hill through 2 consecutive suspend 3) I think we go to more zone so CB play becomes simpler 4) Kinlaw is the deodorant for the back four
High floor guys was on purpose. No rookie camp. No OTAs. Lots of holes. Jefferson is the perfect example. Top 3 route runner...most pro ready...son of a WR coach...he'll be ready to play. Runyan is another guy...son of a NFL player...can play 4 spots...does Alex Taylor has better upside? Absolutely. Could Taylor compete without a full slate of OTAs? Nfw.
The key to the whole thing is Kinlaw.
Just curious: If Kinlaw goes at 9 or whatever and the Vikings can't get him, how would you alter your draft strategy at that point? CB with the first pick and then everything else about the same? Or more drastic changes?
Oh yeah. The draft is drastically different. Much higher priority on CB and trading down. Probably make a move up if one of the OTs slide. But most likely I try to grab as many picks from 25-60 as I can. Load up on that second tier of OTs, DTs, WRs, and the top end of the IOL.
I think this draft may be as weird as this entire off-season. Kinlaw has (had?) a knee issue. NFL team doctors have not been able to check him for themselves. This might make teams far more reluctant to use a high draft pick on a player with medical concerns.
I would not be too quick to move up. And for the same reasons it may not be worth it to move back - you may get very little in return, unless there is a QB there that another team wants.
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