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Where will Kirk end up?
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.
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Quote: @comet52 said:
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.

On a positive note if Kirko does sign with Atlanta, their pick becomes a prime trade up spot if a QB drops. Atlanta won't draft a QB if they sign Kirko. Chicago, immediately behind Atlanta, would like nothing more than prevent us from drafting our QBOTF. If a QB drops, jumping in front of Chicago would be a wise strategy.
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Quote: @supafreak84 said:
From today's GBN;

Falcons early faves to land Bears’ QB Fields … One of the underlying stories circulating at the scouting combine in Indianapolis is where Chicago QB Justin Fields will end up if the Bears, as expected, elect to trade him with USC QB Caleb Williams, the presumptive #1 pick at the 2024 draft looming on the horizon. There were several reports yesterday, for example, that three teams – Atlanta, Las Vegas and Pittsburgh – have shown some serious interest in landing the athletic, although sometimes Fields. The Falcons reportedly have actually talked to the Bears and there have been rumors that the two teams are may actually either have something already in place or are at least close. However, that has not been confirmed, but the Bears have indicated that if they were to move Fields they would like it to be sooner rather later. At the same time, though, there hasn’t been much speculation as to what the compensation would be if that deal were to actually take place, although it appears doubtful it would involve the Falcons’ #1 pick this, the 8th overall. Stay tuned!

LOL.....I just listened to the latest podcast from the NFL Stock Exchange which was released yesterday. The hosts are at the combine & the subject was rumors that they've heard since Monday. They said that Chicago was finding a weak market for Fields. Few teams are showing interests & those that are were offering a 3rd round pick at most.
So who knows.
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Quote: @Knucklehead said:
@comet52 said:
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.

On a positive note if Kirko does sign with Atlanta, their pick becomes a prime trade up spot if a QB drops. Atlanta won't draft a QB if they sign Kirko. Chicago, immediately behind Atlanta, would like nothing more than prevent us from drafting our QBOTF. If a QB drops, jumping in front of Chicago would be a wise strategy.
Well if Chicago, Washington and New England take Williams, Maye and Daniels as expected, that leaves the next tier of guys as Penix, Nix, and McCarthy, not necessarily in that order.  If Atlanta signs Kirk then the only team ahead of us that might be looking at a qb would be the Giants.  Of course others could trade up but even then, looking behind us I don't see a bunch of qb-needy teams.  Maybe Denver but they are right behind us so does moving up really make sense?   The only other team I can see behind us who might be saying they need to land a top qb prospect is Tampa, and that would depend on whether Baker returns or not.  They can probably just sit at 26 and get one of those guys because again, all the teams behind us are pretty much set at the position.   

And is one of those 3 guys really worth a big spend?  I'm not even sure they all rank as first round talent.  The Vikings might actually be looking to trade back a bit and still get their guy, similar to the Darrisaw move which is probably the last time we executed a really smart deal in the draft around here.
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Quote: @comet52 said:
@Knucklehead said:
@comet52 said:
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.

On a positive note if Kirko does sign with Atlanta, their pick becomes a prime trade up spot if a QB drops. Atlanta won't draft a QB if they sign Kirko. Chicago, immediately behind Atlanta, would like nothing more than prevent us from drafting our QBOTF. If a QB drops, jumping in front of Chicago would be a wise strategy.
Well if Chicago, Washington and New England take Williams, Maye and Daniels as expected, that leaves the next tier of guys as Penix, Nix, and McCarthy, not necessarily in that order.  If Atlanta signs Kirk then the only team ahead of us that might be looking at a qb would be the Giants.  Of course others could trade up but even then, looking behind us I don't see a bunch of qb-needy teams.  Maybe Denver but they are right behind us so does moving up really make sense?   The only other team I can see behind us who might be saying they need to land a top qb prospect is Tampa, and that would depend on whether Baker returns or not.  They can probably just sit at 26 and get one of those guys because again, all the teams behind us are pretty much set at the position.   

And is one of those 3 guys really worth a big spend?  I'm not even sure they all rank as first round talent.  The Vikings might actually be looking to trade back a bit and still get their guy, similar to the Darrisaw move which is probably the last time we executed a really smart deal in the draft around here.
Maybe the combine changes things but Penix has had sub-zero buzz since he laid an egg in the championship game. Feels like he has fallen way down boards, or was never high on them to begin with outside of the media. 
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Quote: @comet52 said:
@Knucklehead said:
@comet52 said:
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.

On a positive note if Kirko does sign with Atlanta, their pick becomes a prime trade up spot if a QB drops. Atlanta won't draft a QB if they sign Kirko. Chicago, immediately behind Atlanta, would like nothing more than prevent us from drafting our QBOTF. If a QB drops, jumping in front of Chicago would be a wise strategy.
Well if Chicago, Washington and New England take Williams, Maye and Daniels as expected, that leaves the next tier of guys as Penix, Nix, and McCarthy, not necessarily in that order.  If Atlanta signs Kirk then the only team ahead of us that might be looking at a qb would be the Giants.  Of course others could trade up but even then, looking behind us I don't see a bunch of qb-needy teams.  Maybe Denver but they are right behind us so does moving up really make sense?   The only other team I can see behind us who might be saying they need to land a top qb prospect is Tampa, and that would depend on whether Baker returns or not.  They can probably just sit at 26 and get one of those guys because again, all the teams behind us are pretty much set at the position.   

And is one of those 3 guys really worth a big spend?  I'm not even sure they all rank as first round talent.  The Vikings might actually be looking to trade back a bit and still get their guy, similar to the Darrisaw move which is probably the last time we executed a really smart deal in the draft around here.

Denver is my primary concern because given Russ's cap hit on their books, they're almost obligated to draft a rookie QB. LV is also a possibility. I could also see LAR & Seattle looking for their QBOTF in this draft.
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Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@MaroonBells said:
'Get it done': Atlanta reporter says Falcons owner wants Kirk Cousins 
"All eyes, all arrows, everything points towards Kirk Cousins. Arthur Blank has basically told this front office, 'Do what you gotta do, pay what you gotta pay, get it done,'" Klein said on the Dukes & Bell show on 92.9 The Game. "So everybody I've talked to – agents, other coaches and scouts, guys around the league – that's the feeling that they are saying, of what they are hearing, is that the Falcons will put all their attention on Kirk Cousins moving forward."
I got a growing suspicion ATL may tip the scales for his departure and this kinda cements that.

Well, if they are going to get silly about it? We better start finalizing an aggressive draft plan for a QB and have some dinner with Minshews agent while in Indy. 

I wouldn't mind our guy back from Cinci for a year or so...
I wanted to mention Browner a few times myself,  but I have enough positions to defend I didnt feel like going there.   I will be curios to see what Baker gets from Tampa,  not saying we should be in a bidding war for him,  but it would provide the same "hedge your bet" type of game plan that Kirk would be providing,  however I dont know how Baker would feel about being a mentor to a young guy at this point in his career.
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Quote: @pattersaur said:
@comet52 said:
@Knucklehead said:
@comet52 said:
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.

On a positive note if Kirko does sign with Atlanta, their pick becomes a prime trade up spot if a QB drops. Atlanta won't draft a QB if they sign Kirko. Chicago, immediately behind Atlanta, would like nothing more than prevent us from drafting our QBOTF. If a QB drops, jumping in front of Chicago would be a wise strategy.
Well if Chicago, Washington and New England take Williams, Maye and Daniels as expected, that leaves the next tier of guys as Penix, Nix, and McCarthy, not necessarily in that order.  If Atlanta signs Kirk then the only team ahead of us that might be looking at a qb would be the Giants.  Of course others could trade up but even then, looking behind us I don't see a bunch of qb-needy teams.  Maybe Denver but they are right behind us so does moving up really make sense?   The only other team I can see behind us who might be saying they need to land a top qb prospect is Tampa, and that would depend on whether Baker returns or not.  They can probably just sit at 26 and get one of those guys because again, all the teams behind us are pretty much set at the position.   

And is one of those 3 guys really worth a big spend?  I'm not even sure they all rank as first round talent.  The Vikings might actually be looking to trade back a bit and still get their guy, similar to the Darrisaw move which is probably the last time we executed a really smart deal in the draft around here.
Maybe the combine changes things but Penix has had sub-zero buzz since he laid an egg in the championship game. Feels like he has fallen way down boards, or was never high on them to begin with outside of the media. 
Penix is the Hendon Hooker of this year's draft.  Popular in the media, but I don't think NFL teams view him as a first round guy. I think it's more likely he's late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. 
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Quote: @Wetlander said:
@pattersaur said:
@comet52 said:
@Knucklehead said:
@comet52 said:
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.

On a positive note if Kirko does sign with Atlanta, their pick becomes a prime trade up spot if a QB drops. Atlanta won't draft a QB if they sign Kirko. Chicago, immediately behind Atlanta, would like nothing more than prevent us from drafting our QBOTF. If a QB drops, jumping in front of Chicago would be a wise strategy.
Well if Chicago, Washington and New England take Williams, Maye and Daniels as expected, that leaves the next tier of guys as Penix, Nix, and McCarthy, not necessarily in that order.  If Atlanta signs Kirk then the only team ahead of us that might be looking at a qb would be the Giants.  Of course others could trade up but even then, looking behind us I don't see a bunch of qb-needy teams.  Maybe Denver but they are right behind us so does moving up really make sense?   The only other team I can see behind us who might be saying they need to land a top qb prospect is Tampa, and that would depend on whether Baker returns or not.  They can probably just sit at 26 and get one of those guys because again, all the teams behind us are pretty much set at the position.   

And is one of those 3 guys really worth a big spend?  I'm not even sure they all rank as first round talent.  The Vikings might actually be looking to trade back a bit and still get their guy, similar to the Darrisaw move which is probably the last time we executed a really smart deal in the draft around here.
Maybe the combine changes things but Penix has had sub-zero buzz since he laid an egg in the championship game. Feels like he has fallen way down boards, or was never high on them to begin with outside of the media. 
Penix is the Hendon Hooker of this year's draft.  Popular in the media, but I don't think NFL teams view him as a first round guy. I think it's more likely he's late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. 

I think he is much better than Hooker. He has good pocket presence and doesn't hold the ball too long.
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Quote: @Wetlander said:
@pattersaur said:
@comet52 said:
@Knucklehead said:
@comet52 said:
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.

On a positive note if Kirko does sign with Atlanta, their pick becomes a prime trade up spot if a QB drops. Atlanta won't draft a QB if they sign Kirko. Chicago, immediately behind Atlanta, would like nothing more than prevent us from drafting our QBOTF. If a QB drops, jumping in front of Chicago would be a wise strategy.
Well if Chicago, Washington and New England take Williams, Maye and Daniels as expected, that leaves the next tier of guys as Penix, Nix, and McCarthy, not necessarily in that order.  If Atlanta signs Kirk then the only team ahead of us that might be looking at a qb would be the Giants.  Of course others could trade up but even then, looking behind us I don't see a bunch of qb-needy teams.  Maybe Denver but they are right behind us so does moving up really make sense?   The only other team I can see behind us who might be saying they need to land a top qb prospect is Tampa, and that would depend on whether Baker returns or not.  They can probably just sit at 26 and get one of those guys because again, all the teams behind us are pretty much set at the position.   

And is one of those 3 guys really worth a big spend?  I'm not even sure they all rank as first round talent.  The Vikings might actually be looking to trade back a bit and still get their guy, similar to the Darrisaw move which is probably the last time we executed a really smart deal in the draft around here.
Maybe the combine changes things but Penix has had sub-zero buzz since he laid an egg in the championship game. Feels like he has fallen way down boards, or was never high on them to begin with outside of the media. 
Penix is the Hendon Hooker of this year's draft.  Popular in the media, but I don't think NFL teams view him as a first round guy. I think it's more likely he's late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. 
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@pattersaur said:
@comet52 said:
@Knucklehead said:
@comet52 said:
Lotta steam suddenly coming out of Atlanta, including a rumor that Arthur Blank told his people to go get Cousins.

On a positive note if Kirko does sign with Atlanta, their pick becomes a prime trade up spot if a QB drops. Atlanta won't draft a QB if they sign Kirko. Chicago, immediately behind Atlanta, would like nothing more than prevent us from drafting our QBOTF. If a QB drops, jumping in front of Chicago would be a wise strategy.
Well if Chicago, Washington and New England take Williams, Maye and Daniels as expected, that leaves the next tier of guys as Penix, Nix, and McCarthy, not necessarily in that order.  If Atlanta signs Kirk then the only team ahead of us that might be looking at a qb would be the Giants.  Of course others could trade up but even then, looking behind us I don't see a bunch of qb-needy teams.  Maybe Denver but they are right behind us so does moving up really make sense?   The only other team I can see behind us who might be saying they need to land a top qb prospect is Tampa, and that would depend on whether Baker returns or not.  They can probably just sit at 26 and get one of those guys because again, all the teams behind us are pretty much set at the position.   

And is one of those 3 guys really worth a big spend?  I'm not even sure they all rank as first round talent.  The Vikings might actually be looking to trade back a bit and still get their guy, similar to the Darrisaw move which is probably the last time we executed a really smart deal in the draft around here.
Maybe the combine changes things but Penix has had sub-zero buzz since he laid an egg in the championship game. Feels like he has fallen way down boards, or was never high on them to begin with outside of the media. 
Penix is the Hendon Hooker of this year's draft.  Popular in the media, but I don't think NFL teams view him as a first round guy. I think it's more likely he's late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. 
I'd be totally good at this point, if we can't land one of those top 4 QB's...just taking the best defender on the board at #11 and coming back around with Penix in the second round. Hopefully Kirk would still be in the fold at that point, but it's going to be tough because we have to make that decision before the draft in free agency. We are just kind of floating out there in no man's land at #11 when it comes to quarterbacks
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