An FBI agent had a negative opinion of an ahole under investigation, oh the horrors. Should we subpoena Trey Gowdy and every Republicans phone who has investigated Hillary over the last 20 years and see what they said about Hillary in private conversations? Does an FBI's personal feelings affect the EVIDENCE of the FACTS? Nope.
The fact you think Hillary bought info from the Russians tells me you are once again mis-informed and at this point I feel like I'm arguing with a clueless idiot. Let's try reality for a change: Dems hired Fusion GPS, American company, that was already contracted by Republicans to get dirt on Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Steele, a British agent. Not even close to your claim of "purchasing facts from Russians about her opponent", yet that's fucking EXACTLY what Trump did. Trump literally asked the Russians for their help on national TV, to hack his opponents emails, then his son accepts an email invitation from Russians directly to get dirt on Hillary. Then he lied about it, repeatedly. "No contact with Russians". "OK we had contact but it was about adoptions". "Ok it wasn't about adoptions, we wanted dirt on Hillary". "Ok but collusion is not illegal".
And yet you try to fabricate some bullshit like it was Hillary getting info. from the Russians. Jesus Christ dude. You literally have your facts ass backwards, and it's pointless to argue with someone that just makes shit up. Again, 2 different sets of realities, truth, and facts are what's tearing this country apart and you guys keep demonstrating how far away you are from understanding what the fuck is going on in the real world.
But go on keep defending Trump with your false equivalencies. It's comical at this point if it weren't so pathetic.
Quote: @Bezerker88 said:
He's keeping his promises that
he ran on and that's what his base likes about him most. I know it's
hard for people to grasp that, as politicians normally don't try to keep
their promises.
Turn off Fox News. He's not keeping his promises. Jesus, do ANY fact checking.
TURN OFF FOX NEWS.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
An FBI agent had a negative opinion of an ahole under investigation, oh the horrors. Should we subpoena Trey Gowdy and every Republicans phone who has investigated Hillary over the last 20 years and see what they said about Hillary in private conversations? Does an FBI's personal feelings affect the EVIDENCE of the FACTS? Nope.
The fact you think Hillary bought info from the Russians tells me you are once again mis-informed and at this point I feel like I'm arguing with a clueless idiot. Let's try reality for a change: Dems hired Fusion GPS, American company, that was already contracted by Republicans to get dirt on Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Steele, a British agent. Not even close to your claim of "purchasing facts from Russians about her opponent", yet that's fucking EXACTLY what Trump did. Trump literally asked the Russians for their help on national TV, to hack his opponents emails, then his son accepts an email invitation from Russians directly to get dirt on Hillary. Then he lied about it, repeatedly. "No contact with Russians". "OK we had contact but it was about adoptions". "Ok it wasn't about adoptions, we wanted dirt on Hillary". "Ok but collusion is not illegal".
And yet you try to fabricate some bullshit like it was Hillary getting info. from the Russians. Jesus Christ dude. You literally have your facts ass backwards, and it's pointless to argue with someone that just makes shit up. Again, 2 different sets of realities, truth, and facts are what's tearing this country apart and you guys keep demonstrating how far away you are from understanding what the fuck is going on in the real world.
But go on keep defending Trump with your false equivalencies. It's comical at this point if it weren't so pathetic.
From the timeline I asked you to read...
https://sharylattkisson.com/2018/10/06/c...-timeline/
Oct. 19, 2016: Ex-British spy Christopher
Steele writes his last memo for anti-Trump “dossier” political
opposition research provided to FBI. The FBI reportedly authorizes
payment to Steele. Fusion GPS has reportedly paid him $160,000.
Approx. Oct. 21, 2016: For the second time in several months, Justice Department and FBI apply to wiretap former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates sign the application.
This time, the request is approved based on new FBI “evidence,”
including parts of Fusion GPS’ “Steele dossier” and Michael Isikoff
Yahoo article. The FBI doesn’t tell the court that Trump’s political opponent— the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee— funded the “evidence.”
Quote: @KingBash said:
@ Bezerker88 said:
He's keeping his promises that
he ran on and that's what his base likes about him most. I know it's
hard for people to grasp that, as politicians normally don't try to keep
their promises.
Turn off Fox News. He's not keeping his promises. Jesus, do ANY fact checking.
TURN OFF FOX NEWS.
So no promises kept? None? Hmmmm Let me check that....
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...umpometer/
Whoops... I see some promises kept. 14 of them even... Broken is 8. Compromise is 7(I'd like to see this number higher). 40 are in the works and 33 stalled . So you see, he is keeping promises, otherwise that "kept" number would be 0. That's how counting works.
I'm saddened and dismayed at how uncivil our civilization has become. I place no blame. Most leaders are a product of who they lead not the other way around. Really they are. We as a nation are bipolar. The pendulum swings and the more it swings the farther it gets away from the middle with each swing. At each end are regular Americans throwing it back the other direction. Don't blame our leaders blame ourselves.
I don't even know how to respond to events of the day. Only to say two former Presidents seemingly were the target of an assination and insted of unity in our anger we are pointing finger at the pendulum as it swings wildly hoping it points us in the direction that fits our agenda. Hoping it stops on our side. Guess what pendulums don't stop.
What I've been reading from regular Americans lately doesn't make me proud. It makes me saddened and dismayed but mostly just worried. Today my worry got much worse.
zerk—you know i like you and you make me laugh. So this pains me but as a friend i have tell you that you are quoting the Washington Examiner—a far right wing “newspaper” that is not dealing with facts. just look at the ad that comes up when you go on it. its for some political symposium with Ken Starr, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove and many others all of whom are Republican political operatives. These are not people and this is not a paper that will give you the unvarnished truth.
Quote: @Caactorvike said:
zerk—you know i like you and you make me laugh. So this pains me but as a friend i have tell you that you are quoting the Washington Examiner—a far right wing “newspaper” that is not dealing with facts. just look at the ad that comes up when you go on it. its for some political symposium with Ken Starr, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove and many others all of whom are Republican political operatives. These are not people and this is not a paper that will give you the unvarnished truth.
It's pointless talking to Republicans like Berzerker. It's actually gotten that bad that I'm annoyed with myself for trying. They're gone. Brainwashed.
Quote: @Bezerker88 said:
@ KingBash said:
@ Bezerker88 said:
He's keeping his promises that
he ran on and that's what his base likes about him most. I know it's
hard for people to grasp that, as politicians normally don't try to keep
their promises.
Turn off Fox News. He's not keeping his promises. Jesus, do ANY fact checking.
TURN OFF FOX NEWS.
So no promises kept? None? Hmmmm Let me check that....
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...umpometer/
Whoops... I see some promises kept. 14 of them even... Broken is 8. Compromise is 7(I'd like to see this number higher). 40 are in the works and 33 stalled . So you see, he is keeping promises, otherwise that "kept" number would be 0. That's how counting works.
Perhaps I should've said he's blown it way more often than not. Unfortunately, lots of the promises he did keep in your link are ones just to appease he idiot base.
Yeah, this is admittedly a liberal site, but all the points look factual. I'm citing it because the majority of it was shit I actually cared about, things a) I'm GLAD he didn't keep or b) I wanted him to actually pay attention to... but he was too busy golfing (after saying he'd be too busy to golf when he was elected... remember that? So cute.)
Quote: @Caactorvike said:
zerk—you know i like you and you make me laugh. So this pains me but as a friend i have tell you that you are quoting the Washington Examiner—a far right wing “newspaper” that is not dealing with facts. just look at the ad that comes up when you go on it. its for some political symposium with Ken Starr, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove and many others all of whom are Republican political operatives. These are not people and this is not a paper that will give you the unvarnished truth.
No worries CA. I talk politics with anyone and don't transfer any hard feelings, I know others cannot do this and I don't really expect them to as sometimes I can be an ass. I've tried not to here but sometimes some slip out. I know what the Washington Examiner is but I also know that Obama's admin attacked reporters, went after sources and did set records for denying Freedom of Information requests. I voted for the guy and watched how he preformed closely. I have also seen Anita Dunn say this about Fox news... "Let's not pretend they're a news network like CNN is". So I was looking for an article that summed things up(Obama's attacks on reporters and Fox News comments) and used that one. As I said, I know it's biased to the right. I could find other links... like this one. LINK but I really don't want to waste the energy and like I said before, "if people want to know, they could look it up too." or whatever wonderfully enlightened thing I said. =)
I know politics can divide people with the greatest of ease... but I try to not let that happen. I just want facts to be known so people can make informed decisions based on information, not emotion or being told what to say/think and I saw some things here being presented pretty one sided and stepped in to offer the other side of things. Like I said, I'm a registered Democrat but have voted for 3 different parties in the Presidential elections of late. Trump is not "my guy" as some has said, but he won the election and as such has the right to try to execute his plan for the country, it's how this Republic works. The peaceful transfer of power is critical for our nation to remain the beacon that some see it as. When you have people working inside the government to stop that process it dulls that beacon. I would say the same thing if some people hung around the executive branch and tried to stop Obama. People will point to the Rep Congress obstructing Obama as unfair, but that's how it's suppose to happen. Elected officials should have power to check each other... not government employees... Government employees are not all powerful and shouldn't see themselves as "stopping an elected official" from doing their "job" that they were elected to do. People might like it now because it's not their guy "being resisted" but remember, some day, perhaps soon, a Dem will be in the White House and do you want a "resistance" or any other government employee to have "a plan" to stop them? I hope the answer is no. And I've said this from the get go... If it's proven that Trump is a Russian puppet then impeach his ass and I'll be pissed it took this long to prove it. But I don't think there is evidence that supports it as both Dems and Reps that have seen some of the reports say there isn't, so far, but if there is and it's been sat on this long... l'll be pissed.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
We aren't on the verge of any civil war. Don't get caught up in the hyperbole and hype.
Well...that page 1 advice wasn't taken.
Not only is Trump causing a Civil War, he's the cause of the Rise of the Fourth Reich and the Chief domestic Terrorist in Chief.
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