You want to talk DeSantis?

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@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 

I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 

Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

Person alleging Biden criminal bribery scheme is a 'highly credible' FBI source used since Obama admin: Source | Fox News

There are millions of Americans just like me.  If Trump is nominated we will not vote for him period. I’d take Biden, Obama or Clinton over Trump every day of the week and twice on election day. 

A further point, Joe can only be 1 thing on your list. He’s either so old and senile that he doesn’t know whats going on…or he’s some crooked mastermind duping millions of Americans. He can’t be both at the same time. 

You’re the problem, then.  I’m tired of hearing of “Trump Haters” while supporting wtf is happening to our country and the world.  Joe is old and senile and greedy, with a huge ego.  He’s clueless that he’s all of those things, so no He can be everything I list him as, particularly when combined with figures like Soros, Pelosi, Buffett, and leaders of the Federal agencies.  
It’s time for those of you that claim to be in the middle to see all that’s going on around them, and realize they’ve been had. Unfortunately, people hate to admit their views have been wrong all along, so there’s probably little hope that you’ll do so.  Few people like to admit that they were clueless as this whole charade has unfolded since 2015 between the media, Obama, and the puppeteers behind the scenes.

Oh, this is comedy!
"Those of you who claim to be in the middle..." you mean, the actual majority of voters that aren't supporting either party behind $30+ trillion in growing debt?  The red cap dunce club has shown to be utterly disconnected from reality for years, whether conveniently forgetting that orange boi brought the initial vax and lockdowns (they work VERY hard to blame Biden), to parrot every bit of spittle that he sprays, uselessly, all over his podiums (would we be here if his NFL boycott happened?  Also, how did Bubba Wallace 'ruin' NASCAR, exactly?), and again...he waxes poetic over the "brilliance" of some of the worst people on Earth, including a full-on mass murderer/rapist.  Imagine my surprise that Carlson was another fan of that bloody monstrosity.

You try to speak for others, but you're showing absolute blind allegiance for the Donald while not actually debating other points...which makes you just like most of his other fanbois I've dealt with, they've got less than nothing to actually debate with.

No, I just choose to wade theough the mud to get to the truth.  i cant address your claim because its so hysterical and tarnished as to not be worth the time. i agree that were kind of funneled into one or two parties.  check your math above and try to show me where your so called middle fround is showing up on slection day. lol. you people are literally willing to let this country dissolve into chaos and poverty rather than asmit youve been duped. Im ashamed of anyone who claims Biden is better for this countey than Trump.  

Your spelling would shame a 2nd grader, I guess you're all kinds of upset...because you're still unable to explain why your hero is constantly propping up a mass murderer.

That doesn't require "wading through", that's been central in my posts.  Anyone with basic English comprehension could find it...but, the redcap club might be below that standard.

You keep saying I've been "duped", but proving that is on you.  Duped by who, and when?  I don't prop up either your Sunkist savior or sleepy joe, I don't trust CNN or Faux Nooz, so...I'm sure you get this question a lot...what do you imagine you're talking about?

Just admit that you can't debate, just like the rest of the trumpettes, because they always fail when asked for real points/facts.  Always.

Boy you got me typing on an iPhone.  I’m so ashamed.  Lol. I’d be much more ashamed having political views so shallow as to be indefensible.  

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Trumpers = cult members. Straight up.

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Just heard an interview with DeSantis where he was asked to define "woke", a term he is using heavily in his campaign.  His answer was "Cultural Marxism" at first I thought it was just more pejorative word salad.  Then I looked up the term, and am a bit alarmed.  I wonder if he is going to stick with it, now that Trump has thrown down the gauntlet about "woke".  Ron Paul backed away when he tweeted it back in 2018.  Don't want to  get into a discussion about "Cultural Marxism", more interested if this is really what he meant to say.    

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@BigAl99 said:
Just heard an interview with DeSantis where he was asked to define "woke", a term he is using heavily in his campaign.  His answer was "Cultural Marxism" at first I thought it was just more pejorative word salad.  Then I looked up the term, and am a bit alarmed.  I wonder if he is going to stick with it, now that Trump has thrown down the gauntlet about "woke".  Ron Paul backed away when he tweeted it back in 2018.  Don't want to  get into a discussion about "Cultural Marxism", more interested if this is really what he meant to say.    

Cultural Marxism and woke are the same thing in my book. I also think that’s exactly what the Left is engaged in their wokeness campaign 

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@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:
Just heard an interview with DeSantis where he was asked to define "woke", a term he is using heavily in his campaign.  His answer was "Cultural Marxism" at first I thought it was just more pejorative word salad.  Then I looked up the term, and am a bit alarmed.  I wonder if he is going to stick with it, now that Trump has thrown down the gauntlet about "woke".  Ron Paul backed away when he tweeted it back in 2018.  Don't want to  get into a discussion about "Cultural Marxism", more interested if this is really what he meant to say.    

Cultural Marxism and woke are the same thing in my book. I also think that’s exactly what the Left is engaged in their wokeness campaign 

Check out the history and origin, for what it's worth.  So your saying DeSantis is using this theory for his viewpoint.

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@StickyBun said:
Trumpers = cult members. Straight up.

All main party voters keep re-enabling the same traitor clubs that have us in massive debt, wars, and divisive hatred, so...I see 130-140 million cultists at least every 4 years.

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@Zanary said:

@StickyBun said:
Trumpers = cult members. Straight up.

All main party voters keep re-enabling the same traitor clubs that have us in massive debt, wars, and divisive hatred, so...I see 130-140 million cultists at least every 4 years.

Hardly. This isn't an apples for apples comparison by any stretch. Saying the election was rigged and that Jan. 6th riots were 'fine' because they were 'patriots' isn't in the same zip code as party line voting. Give me a break.

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@StickyBun said:

@Zanary said:

@StickyBun said:
Trumpers = cult members. Straight up.

All main party voters keep re-enabling the same traitor clubs that have us in massive debt, wars, and divisive hatred, so...I see 130-140 million cultists at least every 4 years.

Hardly. This isn't an apples for apples comparison by any stretch. Saying the election was rigged and that Jan. 6th riots were 'fine' because they were 'patriots' isn't in the same zip code as party line voting. Give me a break.

Reminder: I live just outside Seattle, where rioters were enabled, cheered, and allowed to take a center of the city hostage as the mayor hailed CHAZ/CHOP as a "Summer of Love" (despite rapes/execution style murders), police were trapped in a precinct building that had rioters trying to both Quik-Crete doors shut and set it on fire, the governor used Covid powers to fire anyone that didn't keep vaxxing at his demanded rates and then held onto federal covid funds longer than any other governor in the country, allowed the DA to sue the citizens to keep car tab prices high (yes, this happened), had a huge chunk of Seattle/Western Washington "leaders" mysteriously delete their supposedly public domain texts during the CHOP/CHAZ debacle (that investigation continues), almost half of the Seattle police force quit due to lack of support from DNC "LEADERSHIP:" that has held all the power here for generations (and now wonders why recruiting is going to terribly), put extra taxes on firearms and ammunition before outlawing both large capacity magazines and the fallacy that is "assault weapons" (but they're not coming for your guns, America!  Really!)...

...while giving us either first or second highest gas taxes, soaring homicide rates, and constant attempts to put in methadone/safe injection sites along with sexual predator rehab facilities within a block of elementary schools.

This all has happened, and/or IS happening, and the DNC cult has held all of the meaningful power here for generations.

Sick, filthy cultists...but calling them anything of the kind results in instant hissings of "fascist! nazi! racist!" regardless the context...

...so, if anything, I think modern leftist, which is certainly basing more on leftist authoritarianism than anything like liberalism, is comparable to a direction like Stalinism or Maoism...

...both of which dwarfed nazism's already horrible body count.

Cults.  Horrible, and not so much "apples to apples" as two kinds of rotting roadkill.

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@JimmyinSD said:
Zanary's hand work?

140 million brainwashed drones can't be...well, anything but horrifying...!