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OT: Brees still doesn't get it
#91
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@purplefaithful said:
@MaroonBells said:
Why not just ignore it? Or better yet, why not just acknowledge that, while you may not share the opinion of the protesters, this is a free country and everyone (individuals, teams, businesses) is allowed to demonstrate and protest peacefully. 

Because that's what a leader would do. That's what a smart person would do. Our president is neither.  


POTUS is certainly transparent about how he feels about lot's of things, important things...And that lens appeals to his base. Now how that translates to broader America in November remains to be seen.





My take is he isn't 'transparent about how he feels' as much as he's pandering to his voting base. Like with the Bible (his favorite book, lol) yet can't name one verse. He's taken a section of the country that feels like American values have been flushed away and turned that into a cult like following that rationalize every stupid thing he says into either that he's trolling the Left or being a 'true American'. Truth is closer to he's just a moron. That somehow he's a man of the people is absolutely hilarious. 
Agree...I don't think his followers are aware of just how close to fascism we've gotten with Trump. Jason Stanley, in his book, How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them, describes fascism’s characteristics and what fascist politicians do. 

Create a mythic (ideal) past. --MAGA
Rewrite reality with propaganda.--Crowd size, everything is great, response to Covid "perfect." Everything on Fox News. John Dean once said that Nixon would've survived Watergate if he had a propaganda machine like Fox News. 
Take an anti-intellectual stance.--Homeschooling, liberal indoctrination, anti-diversity, anti-science, anti-journalism. 
Create a state of unreality where conspiracy theories and fake news replace reasoned debate.--Birtherism, Plandemic, deep state, QAnon, Antifa, false flags.
Stoke feelings of victimhood in the dominant group.--All lives matter. War on Christmas. “Fascist politics covers up structural inequality by attempting to invert, misrepresent, and subvert the long hard effort to address it.” (Stanley, 2018, p. 99)
Discuss cities as sources of corrupting culture.--See Conservative Survival Guide.


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#92
Roger Goodell: I 'Encourage' NFL Teams to Sign Colin Kaepernick to a ContractScott PolacekTodd Kirkland/Associated PressFormer San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick has not played a down in the NFL since March 2017, but NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said he encourages teams to sign him Monday. 
"Well, listen, if he wants to resume his career in the NFL, then obviously it's gonna take a team to make that decision," Goodell said during a conversation with Mike Greenberg for ESPN's "The Return of Sports" special. "But I welcome that, support a club making that decision, and encourage them to do that."
Goodell also said Kaepernick can have a role with the NFL even if he isn't playing to help the league make strides as the national conversation has turned to systemic racism and police brutality:
"If his efforts are not on the field but continuing to work in this space, we welcome him to that table and to help us, guide us, help us make better decisions about the kinds of things that need to be done in the communities. We have invited him in before, and we want to make sure that everybody's welcome at that table, and trying to help us deal with some very complex, difficult issues, that have been around for a long time."



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#94
His stats and effectiveness did erode over time. Or at least that appeared to be the case if memory serves me right.

But Is there a football reason why Kapernick wouldn't be better than 98% of the back-up qb's on a roster today?

Honestly, I'd rather have him behind KC than what we got. But you'd have to be ready for a media circus, at least for a little while. 
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#95
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
His stats and effectiveness did erode over time. Or at least that appeared to be the case if memory serves me right.

But Is there a football reason why Kapernick wouldn't be better than 98% of the back-up qb's on a roster today?

Honestly, I'd rather have him behind KC than what we got. But you'd have to be ready for a media circus, at least for a little while. 
Personally, I think he'd be better than a third of the starting QBs in the NFL. But I think it's the circus that has prevented him from joining a team. Even the Vikings, with one of the most progressive FOs in the league, it's tough to see them adding a potential distraction like this to their carefully crafted culture. 
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#96
Can someone explain to me how this is at all Presidential? Its not even civil, its just petty and small-minded. Are you proud of this behavior as a Trump supporter? I'm really trying to understand. 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-d...54786.html
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#97
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Can someone explain to me how this is at all Presidential? Its not even civil, its just petty and small-minded. Are you proud of this behavior as a Trump supporter? I'm really trying to understand. 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-d...54786.html
We flew past being civil and decent somewhere back in 2018.  Christians threw that “Love thy neighbor” commandment out the window while propping up Trump’s asshole behavior loooong ago.


I get why people voted for Trump over Hillary.  What is absolutely mind boggling are the so called Christians that rationalize and accept this repeated pattern of vindictive, petty, asshole-behavior from the President they’re all so ga-ga over.  


It just shows the complete 180 the GOP did in under 4 years ... party of family values, fiscal conservatives my ass.


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#98
Softball GM doesn't get it. 

https://www.si.com/more-sports/2020/06/23/scrap-yard-dawgs-softball-team-general-manager-tweet-national-anthem

Members of the Scrap Yard Dawgs professional softball team have said they will never play for the team again after general manager Connie May's insensitive tweet Monday night.
The Houston-based independent softball team started a seven-game series against the USSSA Pride on Monday at Space Coast Stadium in Florida. During the game, a tweet was sent out from the team's official account with a photo of Scrap Yard players standing during the national anthem. The now-deleted tweet included the message "Everyone respecting the FLAG!" and tagged President Donald Trump's twitter handle.
Trump has repeatedly stated his dislike for athletes who kneel during the national anthem to protest racial injustice and police brutality.
Once the team found out about the tweet, several Scrap Yard players shared their objections on social media.
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#99
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@purplefaithful said:
His stats and effectiveness did erode over time. Or at least that appeared to be the case if memory serves me right.

But Is there a football reason why Kapernick wouldn't be better than 98% of the back-up qb's on a roster today?

Honestly, I'd rather have him behind KC than what we got. But you'd have to be ready for a media circus, at least for a little while. 
Personally, I think he'd be better than a third of the starting QBs in the NFL. But I think it's the circus that has prevented him from joining a team. Even the Vikings, with one of the most progressive FOs in the league, it's tough to see them adding a potential distraction like this to their carefully crafted culture. 
I think there’s a lot of QBs that are better than existing
starters because teams want to give their young rookie contract QB every chance
to succeed even if they suck in the short term. 
I totally agree that the media circus is the primary problem with Kaepernick,
more so than people not liking him.  I
just don’t think the BLM people will be content with him being a backup and just
being on the team.  They want/need him to
be heroic.  If we signed him as a backup,
it would only be mere moments before we started having to field a constant
stream of questions about if he’s better than Cousins and if maybe now is the
right time to make the switch.

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Quote: @medaille said:
@MaroonBells said:
@purplefaithful said:
His stats and effectiveness did erode over time. Or at least that appeared to be the case if memory serves me right.

But Is there a football reason why Kapernick wouldn't be better than 98% of the back-up qb's on a roster today?

Honestly, I'd rather have him behind KC than what we got. But you'd have to be ready for a media circus, at least for a little while. 
Personally, I think he'd be better than a third of the starting QBs in the NFL. But I think it's the circus that has prevented him from joining a team. Even the Vikings, with one of the most progressive FOs in the league, it's tough to see them adding a potential distraction like this to their carefully crafted culture. 
I think there’s a lot of QBs that are better than existing
starters because teams want to give their young rookie contract QB every chance
to succeed even if they suck in the short term. 
I totally agree that the media circus is the primary problem with Kaepernick,
more so than people not liking him.  I
just don’t think the BLM people will be content with him being a backup and just
being on the team.
  They want/need him to
be heroic.
  If we signed him as a backup,
it would only be mere moments before we started having to field a constant
stream of questions about if he’s better than Cousins and if maybe now is the
right time to make the switch.

Don't agree with the bold at all. I think people who know football, regardless of their opinion of his cause, think it's an injustice that he's not on an NFL roster. Should he be starting? Yeah, there are probably at least a half dozen teams for whom he would be an upgrade.

We're talking about a guy who was one play away from winning a Super Bowl, two straight appearances in the NFC Championship game, and the 4th best TD/INT ratio in history, prompting a contract extension worth $126 Million. Teams lie all the time, but they don't lie with their checkbooks. Over the next year and a half, despite 4 surgeries and 2 coaching changes that limited his effectiveness, his final season saw him get healthy, throw 16 TDs with only 4 INTs, while rushing for nearly 500 yards in only 12 games. He'd still be on that team if it weren't for the kneeling...and the decision to change coaches a 3rd time to a system that didn't fit him. 
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