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AGRforever · 11-29-2019, 03:27 AM

Can you imagine paying him and getting what he is this year? Off target, not great in the pocket, not inspiring. Dude looks old and lost out there.

11-29-2019, 03:55 AM

Up and down.

11-29-2019, 05:35 AM

falcon. mistakes. more. lead. to. falcons. losing. saints. not. overley. impressive. especialy on. off

11-29-2019, 06:40 AM

is that Kyle Shanahan i hear shuckling ?

11-29-2019, 03:48 PM

As long as he keeps getting me points in fantasy I could care less how much the Falcons suck.

11-29-2019, 04:33 PM

OCs make a big difference it seems. Look at Ryan having his best year under Shanahan. Wentz without Reich seems pedestrian. Cousins with Stef vs Flip is another example.

11-29-2019, 04:48 PM

Quote: @comet52 said:
OCs make a big difference it seems. Look at Ryan having his best year under Shanahan. Wentz without Reich seems pedestrian. Cousins with Stef vs Flip is another example.

Exactly. Ryan is a former 1st team All Pro, NFL MVP and 4-time Pro Bowler. It's not like he suddenly "sucks" or forgot how to play QB. There is so much that contributes to the success or failure of a QB.

11-29-2019, 08:31 PM

Quote: @comet52 said:
OCs make a big difference it seems. Look at Ryan having his best year under Shanahan. Wentz without Reich seems pedestrian. Cousins with Stef vs Flip is another example.

Wentz still has Pederson. But he doesn't have the weapons, especially deep with desean Jackson.

But yes, the play calling has a big effect.

However, Ryan just looks bad. He was dancing in the pocket, happy feet and missing on throws.

11-29-2019, 09:39 PM

Quote: @MaroonBells said: juju

@comet52 said:
OCs make a big difference it seems. Look at Ryan having his best year under Shanahan. Wentz without Reich seems pedestrian. Cousins with Stef vs Flip is another example.
Exactly. Ryan is a former 1st team All Pro, NFL MVP and 4-time Pro Bowler. It's not like he suddenly "sucks" or forgot how to play QB. There is so much that contributes to the success or failure of a QB.

Xaiver Rhoades seems to have found a way to go from great to shit in a very short amount of time.

11-29-2019, 11:32 PM

Quote: @AGRforever said:

@MaroonBells said: juju

@comet52 said:
OCs make a big difference it seems. Look at Ryan having his best year under Shanahan. Wentz without Reich seems pedestrian. Cousins with Stef vs Flip is another example.
Exactly. Ryan is a former 1st team All Pro, NFL MVP and 4-time Pro Bowler. It's not like he suddenly "sucks" or forgot how to play QB. There is so much that contributes to the success or failure of a QB.
Xaiver Rhoades seems to have found a way to go from great to shit in a very short amount of time.

So did Randy Moss. It's different for position players. But 34 is far too young for a QB to be be suffering from some sort of age-related decline. It's much more likely that he's struggling with the new offense, OL, lack of any kind of quality back, etc.