Stefanski elevated to OC to replace Defilippo

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@JimmyinSD said:

@BlackMagic7 said:

@Vikeking2 said:
lets roll these last 3 games. let Stefanski earn the oc job. 

our playcalling this year is atrocious. same shit in any and all situstions. no screen game. rudolph invisivle most of the season. almost never establish the run. flip looked emotionless, never any creativity that worked. never any good quick passing game to negate horrible oline. 

I picture a 5 year old picking plays off of our playcard. 

It's the mental ability behind it that matters as much as the players executing it. You have to understand why you are in a certain formation. You have to understand what the opposing defense does week to week. You have understand what they are doing during the game. You need to have solid foundation of understanding all kinds of different defenses in order to attack. Rarely do teams have players that are so good that they melt the fundamentals of this game.

If you don't know why you are calling something ("this play is written in Crayon!" doesn't count) you are screwed in the league.

exactly,  the great OCs dont necessarily have a better play book,  they have a better undstanding of the whens and whys of playcalling and thats why their teams win.... or at least score a few times before its to late.  

How many big games have you seen the Vikings go into and the opposing team looks like they have spent all week studying and devising ways to attack the Vikings defense and yet we look we plan to just run the same plays/plan because it worked to this point. 
The Eagles playoff game is a good example.  I don't know what Flip did all week before the Patriots and Seahawks games but I don't think he tried to think outside the box and may come up with ways to relieve pressure on Cousins and run plays with out allowing the defenses to just shut us off from the beginning of the game.

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@JimmyinSD said:

@BlackMagic7 said:

@Vikeking2 said:
lets roll these last 3 games. let Stefanski earn the oc job. 

our playcalling this year is atrocious. same shit in any and all situstions. no screen game. rudolph invisivle most of the season. almost never establish the run. flip looked emotionless, never any creativity that worked. never any good quick passing game to negate horrible oline. 

I picture a 5 year old picking plays off of our playcard. 

It's the mental ability behind it that matters as much as the players executing it. You have to understand why you are in a certain formation. You have to understand what the opposing defense does week to week. You have understand what they are doing during the game. You need to have solid foundation of understanding all kinds of different defenses in order to attack. Rarely do teams have players that are so good that they melt the fundamentals of this game.

If you don't know why you are calling something ("this play is written in Crayon!" doesn't count) you are screwed in the league.

exactly,  the great OCs dont necessarily have a better play book,  they have a better undstanding of the whens and whys of playcalling and thats why their teams win.... or at least score a few times before its to late.  

Yep.  The feel for the game, the art of playcalling.   Flip didn't have it.  Was hoping he would grow into it, but seemed to regress instead.

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@ThunderGod said:

@JimmyinSD said:

@BlackMagic7 said:

@Vikeking2 said:
lets roll these last 3 games. let Stefanski earn the oc job. 

our playcalling this year is atrocious. same shit in any and all situstions. no screen game. rudolph invisivle most of the season. almost never establish the run. flip looked emotionless, never any creativity that worked. never any good quick passing game to negate horrible oline. 

I picture a 5 year old picking plays off of our playcard. 

It's the mental ability behind it that matters as much as the players executing it. You have to understand why you are in a certain formation. You have to understand what the opposing defense does week to week. You have understand what they are doing during the game. You need to have solid foundation of understanding all kinds of different defenses in order to attack. Rarely do teams have players that are so good that they melt the fundamentals of this game.

If you don't know why you are calling something ("this play is written in Crayon!" doesn't count) you are screwed in the league.

exactly,  the great OCs dont necessarily have a better play book,  they have a better undstanding of the whens and whys of playcalling and thats why their teams win.... or at least score a few times before its to late.  

How many big games have you seen the Vikings go into and the opposing team looks like they have spent all week studying and devising ways to attack the Vikings defense and yet we look we plan to just run the same plays/plan because it worked to this point. 
The Eagles playoff game is a good example.  I don't know what Flip did all week before the Patriots and Seahawks games but I don't think he tried to think outside the box and may come up with ways to relieve pressure on Cousins and run plays with out allowing the defenses to just shut us off from the beginning of the game.

defense reacts.... its part of the dance.  the D has some small nuances,  but they really react on the fly, its the nature of the game.   you can show them something and then roll out of it,  but its really up to the O to lead and then react from there IMO.

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@JimmyinSD said:

@BlackMagic7 said:

@Vikeking2 said:
lets roll these last 3 games. let Stefanski earn the oc job. 

our playcalling this year is atrocious. same shit in any and all situstions. no screen game. rudolph invisivle most of the season. almost never establish the run. flip looked emotionless, never any creativity that worked. never any good quick passing game to negate horrible oline. 

I picture a 5 year old picking plays off of our playcard. 

It's the mental ability behind it that matters as much as the players executing it. You have to understand why you are in a certain formation. You have to understand what the opposing defense does week to week. You have understand what they are doing during the game. You need to have solid foundation of understanding all kinds of different defenses in order to attack. Rarely do teams have players that are so good that they melt the fundamentals of this game.

If you don't know why you are calling something ("this play is written in Crayon!" doesn't count) you are screwed in the league.

exactly,  the great OCs dont necessarily have a better play book,  they have a better undstanding of the whens and whys of playcalling and thats why their teams win.... or at least score a few times before its to late.  

See and all this time I thought it was the better OCs had better players........which I still think is mostly the case.  There's a maximum potential that you can get out of players and there is certainly under performance that you can get out of players. Flipper wasn't able to get much out of what we have right now which is why he's gone.  

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@AGRforever said:

@JimmyinSD said:

@BlackMagic7 said:

@Vikeking2 said:
lets roll these last 3 games. let Stefanski earn the oc job. 

our playcalling this year is atrocious. same shit in any and all situstions. no screen game. rudolph invisivle most of the season. almost never establish the run. flip looked emotionless, never any creativity that worked. never any good quick passing game to negate horrible oline. 

I picture a 5 year old picking plays off of our playcard. 

It's the mental ability behind it that matters as much as the players executing it. You have to understand why you are in a certain formation. You have to understand what the opposing defense does week to week. You have understand what they are doing during the game. You need to have solid foundation of understanding all kinds of different defenses in order to attack. Rarely do teams have players that are so good that they melt the fundamentals of this game.

If you don't know why you are calling something ("this play is written in Crayon!" doesn't count) you are screwed in the league.

exactly,  the great OCs dont necessarily have a better play book,  they have a better undstanding of the whens and whys of playcalling and thats why their teams win.... or at least score a few times before its to late.  

See and all this time I thought it was the better OCs had better players........which I still think is mostly the case.  There's a maximum potential that you can get out of players and there is certainly under performance that you can get out of players. Flipper wasn't able to get much out of what we have right now which is why he's gone.  

Flipper was handed a shit situation with our weak ol that was made even worse with injuries,  but he really didnt seem to have a plan at all when it came to minimizing those affects.  I think there are a lot of OCs that have made chicken salad out of chicken shit... of course the opposite can be true with great players... either way this team has enough weapons on O that there is no way that they should have been shut out last night IMO.