Message to the Wilfs...

[BigAl99]

Maybe KOC, underestimated the skill difference between college and pro qbs

[supafreak84]

Maybe KOC, underestimated the skill difference between college and pro qbs

Being that he was a college and pro quarterback himself, I'd think that to be unlikely

[mblack]

Minnesota had -1 net yards of offense in the second half. How much do we blame JJM for that....90%? More? Having Darrisaw and Jackson go out wasn't ideal, but I've stopped blaming the O-line now. 

I can say now this would be a pretty good team with competent QB play. Superbowl level? Still no IMO, but a playoff team I believe. You just aren't going to win games throwing for 87 yards and 2 INTs as your baseline. I mean Love didn't knock it out of the park either but we've seen more than enough games already in JJ's career where he's thrown for less than 100 yards or around that.

At the bold. What happened to the running game? Yeah KOC moved away from it but this team's issues on offense start and end with the Oline

[BigAl99]

Being that he was a college and pro quarterback himself, I'd think that to be unlikely

But he only coached in the pro's.  His player stats are 4 of 6 for 23 yards.  So he wasn't too successful with his transition.

[supafreak84]

But he only coached in the pro's.  His player stats are 4 of 6 for 23 yards.  So he wasn't too successful with his transition.

Yes but you'd think with his overall background, that if anybody had the experience to be able to identify a college quarterback who could make a successful transition to the pros...it would be him. Hiw many years did he sit behind Brady? I found the Sam Howell thing hugely perplexing and a red flag.  The only other quarterback we've drafted was Jaren Hall, who was awful. Now McCarthy is doing his best Christian Ponder impression which leads me to believe that maybe KOC doesn't know any more than any of us in identifying young quarterback talent.

[BigAl99]

Yes but you'd think with his overall background, that if anybody had the experience to be able to identify a college quarterback who could make a successful transition to the pros...it would be him. Hiw many years did he sit behind Brady? I found the Sam Howell thing hugely perplexing and a red flag.  The only other quarterback we've drafted was Jaren Hall, who was awful. Now McCarthy is doing his best Christian Ponder impression which leads me to believe that maybe KOC doesn't know any more than any of us in identifying young quarterback talent.

In 2015 he was QB coach in Cleveland and they drafted Johnny Manziel.  The only other QBs drafted where he was either QB coach, OC or assistant were Washington, Dwayne Haskins and SF, Jeff Driskell.  He played 1 year in NE.  He has way more experienced than me and was definitely a better player, but how that translates to picking young QBs, who knows, He's still a young coach.  The whisperer reputation thing may be something he never corrected when it got brought up.

[purplefaithful]

Maybe KOC, underestimated the skill difference between college and pro qbs

Being that he was a college and pro quarterback himself, I'd think that to be unlikely

TO be fair, KOC did want Maye by all accounts...Obviously he thought he could get JJM over the hump to play on Sundays. 

He talked himself and the org into it.