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So...the Compensatory pick for Cam Robinson
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Looks like it could be a 4th if Cleveland starts playing him, a 6th if they don't, and no compensatory pick if Cashman misses much more and Wilson plays more snaps.

Blake Cashman’s injury could prevent Vikings from getting a comp pick
As things stand right now, the injury to inside linebacker Blake Cashman will cost the Vikings and general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah a compensatory pick. Let me explain.

Compensatory picks are decided based on a formula. Appendix V of the Collective Bargaining Agreement explains how the process works.

All players shall be assigned additional points based on honors or participation, as follows:
Selected 1st Team ALL-NFL by PFWA or 1st Team ALL-PRO by AP: 20 points.
Selected All Conference by PFWA (except if selected ALL NFL or ALL PRO above): 5 points.
One point for each percent of the total offensive/defensive plays in which the player participated (excluding special teams), provided that the player participated in a minimum of 25% of the offensive/ defensive plays (excluding special teams). For example: 67% participation equals 67 points, 0% to 24.99% participation equals no points. Exception: in the case of punters and place-kickers, 1 point will be awarded for each punt attempted and 1 point for each punt inside the 20-yard line during the regular season for the punters, and 2 points for each field goal attempted and 1 point for each field goal made during the regular season for place-kickers.
The sum of the numerical values in (a) and (b) above shall represent each player’s Final Numerical Value.
Each CFA’s Final Numerical Value shall be measured in percentile terms against all players’ Final Numerical Values to determine the position of a Club’s Compensatory Draft Selection, if any.
In basic terms, it’s a formula that adds your ranking of your average annual value, adding in the percentage of snaps you play on offense or defense, with any eligible awards you win. The top 689 players qualify for the formula, and, after starting the last four games, inside linebacker Eric Wilson now qualifies for the formula, meaning that selection for Cam Robinson is cancelled out.

Wilson only has a contract worth $2.6 million, which is 1,254th in the NFL, but playing 76.4% of the snaps through five weeks is a significant portion of the snaps. That is mainly due to Cashman missing time. As long as Cashman returns relatively quickly, that pick will come back.

Right now, the pick for Robinson is projected as a sixth-round pick due to his barely playing in the last four games. However, that will shoot up once he takes over at left tackle. He could end up starting the rest of the season and shoot that pick up as high as a fourth-round pick.

With 13 weeks left in the NFL season, nothing is set in stone, but it’s noteworthy that this could change how many NFL Draft picks the Vikings have.
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(Yesterday, 04:25 PM)badgervike Wrote: Looks like it could be a 4th if Cleveland starts playing him, a 6th if they don't, and no compensatory pick if Cashman misses much more and Wilson plays more snaps.

Blake Cashman’s injury could prevent Vikings from getting a comp pick
As things stand right now, the injury to inside linebacker Blake Cashman will cost the Vikings and general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah a compensatory pick. Let me explain.

Compensatory picks are decided based on a formula. Appendix V of the Collective Bargaining Agreement explains how the process works.

All players shall be assigned additional points based on honors or participation, as follows:
Selected 1st Team ALL-NFL by PFWA or 1st Team ALL-PRO by AP: 20 points.
Selected All Conference by PFWA (except if selected ALL NFL or ALL PRO above): 5 points.
One point for each percent of the total offensive/defensive plays in which the player participated (excluding special teams), provided that the player participated in a minimum of 25% of the offensive/ defensive plays (excluding special teams). For example: 67% participation equals 67 points, 0% to 24.99% participation equals no points. Exception: in the case of punters and place-kickers, 1 point will be awarded for each punt attempted and 1 point for each punt inside the 20-yard line during the regular season for the punters, and 2 points for each field goal attempted and 1 point for each field goal made during the regular season for place-kickers.
The sum of the numerical values in (a) and (b) above shall represent each player’s Final Numerical Value.
Each CFA’s Final Numerical Value shall be measured in percentile terms against all players’ Final Numerical Values to determine the position of a Club’s Compensatory Draft Selection, if any.
In basic terms, it’s a formula that adds your ranking of your average annual value, adding in the percentage of snaps you play on offense or defense, with any eligible awards you win. The top 689 players qualify for the formula, and, after starting the last four games, inside linebacker Eric Wilson now qualifies for the formula, meaning that selection for Cam Robinson is cancelled out.

Wilson only has a contract worth $2.6 million, which is 1,254th in the NFL, but playing 76.4% of the snaps through five weeks is a significant portion of the snaps. That is mainly due to Cashman missing time. As long as Cashman returns relatively quickly, that pick will come back.

Right now, the pick for Robinson is projected as a sixth-round pick due to his barely playing in the last four games. However, that will shoot up once he takes over at left tackle. He could end up starting the rest of the season and shoot that pick up as high as a fourth-round pick.

With 13 weeks left in the NFL season, nothing is set in stone, but it’s noteworthy that this could change how many NFL Draft picks the Vikings have.

Sorry Badger im a little confused you said “ as things stand right now… Cashman will cost the Vikings…a compensatory pick.” But you also said “as long as Cashman returns relatively quickly, that pick will come back.” And he’s scheduled to return for the Eagles game. So it seems we won’t lose a pick, right?
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Clear as mud.
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(Yesterday, 11:39 PM)Caactorvike Wrote: Sorry Badger im a little confused you said “ as things stand right now… Cashman will cost the Vikings…a compensatory pick.” But you also said “as long as Cashman returns relatively quickly, that pick will come back.” And he’s scheduled to return for the Eagles game. So it seems we won’t lose a pick, right?

The Compensatory issue is with Wilson while playing instead of Cashman.  Wilson's salary is relatively low but his playing time has been high to date (76.4% of snaps).  If that continues (Cashman misses significant additional time all season), we could lose that comp pick entirely as it would wash out with Robinson.  The Robinson comp pick is predicated on his playing time and he has yet to play this year.  He didn't play last week against the Vikings after being traded to the Browns from the Texans.  If Robinson becomes a starter, that comp pick could go as high as a 4th.  If not, as low as a 6th.
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(Yesterday, 11:39 PM)Caactorvike Wrote: Sorry Badger im a little confused you said “ as things stand right now… Cashman will cost the Vikings…a compensatory pick.” But you also said “as long as Cashman returns relatively quickly, that pick will come back.” And he’s scheduled to return for the Eagles game. So it seems we won’t lose a pick, right?

Right. It's based on playing time. The comp pick we'd get for Cam Robinson could be cancelled out by Eric Wilson if he continues playing—in other words, if Cashman misses much more time. Right now it looks pretty positive for the Vikings since Robinson is likely to start at LT soon for the Browns and Cashman is supposed to be healthy soon, pushing Wilson back to the bench. 

Which brings up a factor I hadn't thought of until now. I've been thinking that since Pace hasn't been playing well it might make more sense to start Wilson next to Cashman when he returns. The comp pick formula complicates that a little.
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(4 hours ago)MaroonBells Wrote: Right. It's based on playing time. The comp pick we'd get for Cam Robinson could be cancelled out by Eric Wilson if he continues playing—in other words, if Cashman misses much more time. Right now it looks pretty positive for the Vikings since Robinson is likely to start at LT soon for the Browns and Cashman is supposed to be healthy soon, pushing Wilson back to the bench. 

Which brings up a factor I hadn't thought of until now. I've been thinking that since Pace hasn't been playing well it might make more sense to start Wilson next to Cashman when he returns. The comp pick formula complicates that a little.

Wilson was adequate his first two starts, but has been ass his last two. Better than Pace but still ass. Given his uneven play, it would suck to lose a comp pick because he reached the playing time threshold.
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I like the energy and physicality Wilson brings to the defense, it is something that is much needed. Not worried about a 6th round pick with a GM who is completely awful at drafting.
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