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CEO of UnitedHealthcare murdered this morning in Manhattan
Health care and the overall system were not a top issues this past Potus election...Oh there was talk regarding the Affordable Care Act, but not much more than that.

I wonder if this would be a top 3-4 issue if the elections were held in 25? I suspect the answer may be yes.

IF Mangioni accomplished one thing, it was bringing the issue from a simmer to full blown boil. Will it just go back into the shadows? Or will it remain top of mind for people by mid-terms?
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It's my understanding that his manifesto didn't call out the Healthcare industry. It was more directed at the largesse of corporations. UHC is the 4th largest Corporation in the Country
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People are now pivoting. Not cool to advocate an out and out murder. But, somehow the stupid in society will continue to justify this. And the ones that do are just pathetic.
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(12-10-2024, 06:57 PM)I’m BigAl99 Wrote: My opinion is that heath care is a requirement for a good stable society, culture or community.  Over the last nine years I have been able to see firsthand the differences in our Healthcare system and European (Germany).  I have been on hand for the delivery of all 4 of my grand children, the quality is very similar, but the ease of access and out of pocket expenses are very different.  In Germany my daughter was given access to Midwife, Doula, birth manager.. They were able to interview and choose this person and it started in her first trimester and lasted well after she came home, their out of pocket expenses after 3 days in the hospital was under 100 EU.  My other grand children were both born in the DC/Baltimore area using Johns Hopkins medical systems and had to rely on going to Urgent Care clinics for prenatal and well baby check ups.  Their out of pocket was significantly higher, in the thousands.  I have heard them discuss the costs of being taxed as opposed to paying through an employer.  The German system has a basic level that everyone through income tax  get, then you can get additional coverage as a choice.  The ease and simplicity, no surprise costs and no denial of payments are the biggest things that stand out.  There is no comparison for family leave, they walk the talk when it comes family values being promoted by the government, the family leave is a mandate, not a benefit.

One big issue that the Europeans are totally blown away by is that you can go bankrupt just by getting sick or injured.  They just don't understand that, and why is it acceptable.  Health care for profit is immoral, paying shareholders based on bottom line cost of care to sick.

 Congrats on the grandkids.  

German health care:
"The care system will collapse to an extent that we cannot recover from, possibly even within this year. Doctors have told me that they think things will get really bad in the next 3 to 5 years".
The medical system is in urgent need of reform but all the doctors Euronews Health spoke with were pessimistic about the future of health care in Germany”

https://www.euronews.com/health/2024/02/...r-shortage

(12-11-2024, 10:35 AM)IAGRforever Wrote: Me, fuck health insurance and everything that scummy industry stands for.  Luigi is my hero and there's no way he could have committed the crime.

He was actually a new employee at the Celina Highway 52 Truck stop just north of here.  He was their new overnight truck parking piss bottle retriever and was working a double on 12/4/24. 

If the glove doesn't fit......you must acquit!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17fUGk8CKs/

I think I read one of your posts earlier, that you’re an investment adviser?

Pardon me if I’m wrong.

But if my memory is right, are you saying you’ve never advised investors to buy health industry “products”?
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(Yesterday, 01:25 AM)savannahskol Wrote:  Congrats on the grandkids.  

German health care:
"The care system will collapse to an extent that we cannot recover from, possibly even within this year. Doctors have told me that they think things will get really bad in the next 3 to 5 years".
The medical system is in urgent need of reform but all the doctors Euronews Health spoke with were pessimistic about the future of health care in Germany”

https://www.euronews.com/health/2024/02/...r-shortage


I think I read one of your posts earlier, that you’re an investment adviser?

Pardon me if I’m wrong.

But if my memory is right, are you saying you’ve never advised investors to buy health industry “products”?

  It's about doctors not finding replacements when they retire,  They are mostly General practitioners that are considered "self employed" who float loans for their practices, they want digitization, AI and higher pay, since they lost the New Patient Bonus .  Got confused about who you were quoting, it was attributed to "Hein" not Heinrich.  In context it's not much of a condemnation of one of the top systems.  I believe he is talking about the GP outpatient care portion.  I would love to hear Dr. Heinrich's assessment of our healthcare system, I would guess he would say it was already collapsed in light of the high cost and low results.

If you compare and contrast, in my opinion things aren't as Great as we want, or want to believe.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publica...are-system
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