Yeah... who needs domestic oil?

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ya know,  I think it would be a lot easier to get most people on board with environmental matters if it wasnt typically a flag waved by the people chaining themselves to trees on private property or by politicians that will blow with whatever wind will make them the most money and keep themselves elected.

plain and simply the best argument I have heard to date isnt from a crying child from europe,  a fat cat former politician,  or even some propped up scientist puppet,  its from guys like Mike Olson or others who simply say "what is wrong with taking care of our planet?"   the only answer is "not a damn thing"   but that doesnt mean that we destroy businesses and lives in the US in order to offset the pollution in other countries or look the other way when its pretty clear that the primary driver for new technology isnt to improve our planet as much as it is to improve a billionaires bottom line.   the end results have to justify the means to get to them.  many of our current policies and energy directions simply dont accomplish that.

Skodin keeps talking about infrastructure improvements to the energy grid... I agree with him 100% on that,  its a damn joke that our govt has spent billions subsidizing wind towers here in SoDak and other places (built by uber rich corporations) when the energy isnt even needed here,  and the power lines arent in place to get the power to where it is needed.  The govt should have put those generation subsidies into transmission subsidies and once the highway was in place,  then start building the trucks to run on it.  in the mean time,  the generation side could have evolved a bit more on smaller scales and really fine tuned what they are dotting my back yard with.  I also dont think they should be spending to subsidize an unstable industry like wind until it has complimentary component to offset for times when the wind isnt blowing, the sun isnt shining, etc.  NGAS, Nuclear, other.  I am not against green energy as long as it makes financial sense as well as ecological sense.