05-05-2020, 01:57 PM
Quote: @Jor-El said:
and we wonder why we can never get over the hump.... If Spielman is all in on Cousins than he needs to prove it. If they were going to bank that this year doesnt happen they should have moved draft picks to next year to load up for a QB of the future IMO. Taking DBs and WRs says they want to play this year to me and are planning as if Kirk is the future.@JimmyinSD said:
It's never going to be a "total throwaway" year unless they reset GM and HC. I understand your stance and kind of agree, but I think the Vikings are operating under 3 principles:@MarkSP18 said:
If this year was a throw away they needed to part ways with cousins then too. Reiff is the 2nd best OL we have currently and his contract isnt out of line for his performance, it's insane to get rid of him until you have at least seen if Cleveland can play at this level.@medaille said:
You really believe they have a chance next year? There will be at least 2 question marks on the line according to you. The corners will be very raw.@MarkSP18 said:
The Vikings need to cut or trade Reiff. The Chargers could be a team interested as all the have is Sam Tevi and Trey Pipkins opposite Byran Bulaga.
The Vikings need to save Reiff's cap space to use in better places. After the sign the rookies they will have about 8.75 mil in cap space.
Add in the 8.8 mil for getting rid of Reiff and they now are at about 17.5 mil in cap space.
What can they do with that? Carry it over to 2021 or use it to extend Cook two years.
I would essentially make the next 3 years be for 24 mil with incentives based on snaps played and awards.
They could wait on Cook too.
Next year, O'Neill should be extended with a 5 year 75 mil deal (or thereabouts).
They could give him a 15 mil roster bonus (which is all the cap space carried over) and a 5 mil signing bonus.
His salary for 2021 of $1,080,095 would stay the same.
His salaries from 2022 thru 2025 would be 11, 14, 15, & 15 mil.
His cap hits would be 17.4 in 2021, 12, 15, 16, & 16 mil.
The cap savings from getting rid of an average at his very best Reiff is important.
Ezra Cleveland needs to start from day one. If he struggles they can use Hill and Udoh.
I think next year is a rebuild of sorts and I do not think the inexperienced corners, interior OL, and defensive ends will prove good enough to truly contend for the title.
Keeping Reiff at his current salary is just dumb.
If they do keep him, how many will be saying he needs to go next year or will there still be reasons offered why the Vikings should absorb his 13 mil cap hit next year?
Makes too much sense to move on and go with the YOUTS. I disagree with this a lot. Getting rid of Reiff is throwing in the towel on 2020. Going into 2020 with 3 question marks on the OLine would be nuts.
I would not bet any money on the Vikings even making the playoffs.
Keeping Reiff and not allowing Cleveland to get the experience he needs is a waste of time and 11 mil in cap space.
Let me ask you this. Are you a proponent of allowing Reiff to stick around in 2021 too?
If not, then why wait one season to cut him?
Either go all in on a rebuild or dont do it, half assing shit leads to years and years of mediocrity.
1. Spielman's job is dependent on proving his choice of Cousins was correct (can win or contend for SB).
2. There are serious doubts the 2020 season will be played.3. The team has decided to cut salary costs (especially for 2020, given #2).
Put another way, I think they are, as you put it, half-assing their rebuild/retool, but think they can sneak it into a season that will be shortened or canceled.
