TDN Best And Worst Picks Of The Vikings' Draft Class

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Here are the players that went between their original pick at 81 and Alexander Mattison...

Vikings have pick 81, trade back to 88.

1. (81) Detroit Lions (From MIN): Will Harris, S - Boston College
2. (82) Tennessee Titans: Nate Davis, G - Charlotte
3. (83) Pittsburgh Steelers: Justin Layne, CB - Michigan State
4. (84) Kansas City Chiefs (From SEA): Khalen Saunders, DT - Western Illinois
5. (85) Baltimore Ravens: Jaylon Ferguson, DE - Louisiana Tech
6. (86) Houston Texans: Kahale Warring, TE - San Diego State
7. (87) New England Patriots (From CHI): Damien Harris, RB - Alabama

Vikings have pick 88, trade down to 92.

1. (88) Seattle Seahawks (From MIN): Cody Barton, OLB - Utah
2. (89) Indianapolis Colts: Bobby Okereke, OLB - Stanford
3. (90) Dallas Cowboys: Connor McGovern, G - Penn State
4. (91) Los Angeles Chargers: Trey Pipkins, OT - Sioux Falls

Vikings have pick 92, trade down to 93

1. (92) New York Jets (From MIN): Chuma Edoga, T - USC

Vikings have pick 93, trade down to 102

1. (93) Baltimore Ravens (From MIN): Miles Boykin, WR - Notre Dame
2. (94) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (From LAR): Jamel Dean, CB - Auburn
3. (95) New York Giants (From CLE): Oshane Ximines, DE - Old Dominion
4. (96) Buffalo Bills (From WSH): Dawson Knox, TE - Ole Miss
5. (97) Los Angeles Rams (From NE): Bobby Evans, T - Oklahoma
6. (98) Jacksonville Jaguars (From LAR): Quincy Williams, OLB - Murray State
7. (99) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (From LAR): Mike Edwards, S - Kentucky
8. (100) Carolina Panthers: Will Grier, QB - West Virginia
9. (101) New England Patriots (From LAR): Yodny Cajuste, T - West Virginia
10. (102) Minnesota Vikings (From BAL): Alexander Mattison, RB - Boise State

Now, as I've said before, I love Mattison and think he might just be better for us than any of the above. I sure hope so. But you're fooling yourself if you're saying there are no good players here. Even if I take off the TEs (already drafted one) I'm counting 11 players that I really liked, and a couple I know the Vikings liked. 

So that begs the question, did we get who we were targeting? Most people seem to think that Rick wanted Mattison, knew he could get him later, and so went into the 3rd round knowing he was going to trade down repeatedly in order to stock up on late round picks. That MIGHT be the case, but we don't know that for sure. Might be a little wishful thinking on our part. It feels better if you think the Vikings got exactly who they wanted. But I'm just throwing it out there: The Vikings may have gotten sniped a couple of times here. 

I look at the pick right before 88 and it's Damien Harris, a RB very similar to Mattison. I look at the pick right before 92 and it's Trey Pipkins, a player the Vikings spent a lot of time with. Just throwing it out there...

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@MaroonBells said:
Here are the players that went between their original pick at 81 and Alexander Mattison...

Vikings have pick 81, trade back to 88.

1. (81) Detroit Lions (From MIN): Will Harris, S - Boston College
2. (82) Tennessee Titans: Nate Davis, G - Charlotte
3. (83) Pittsburgh Steelers: Justin Layne, CB - Michigan State
4. (84) Kansas City Chiefs (From SEA): Khalen Saunders, DT - Western Illinois
5. (85) Baltimore Ravens: Jaylon Ferguson, DE - Louisiana Tech
6. (86) Houston Texans: Kahale Warring, TE - San Diego State
7. (87) New England Patriots (From CHI): Damien Harris, RB - Alabama

Vikings have pick 88, trade down to 92.

1. (88) Seattle Seahawks (From MIN): Cody Barton, OLB - Utah
2. (89) Indianapolis Colts: Bobby Okereke, OLB - Stanford
3. (90) Dallas Cowboys: Connor McGovern, G - Penn State
4. (91) Los Angeles Chargers: Trey Pipkins, OT - Sioux Falls

Vikings have pick 92, trade down to 93

1. (92) New York Jets (From MIN): Chuma Edoga, T - USC

Vikings have pick 93, trade down to 102

1. (93) Baltimore Ravens (From MIN): Miles Boykin, WR - Notre Dame
2. (94) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (From LAR): Jamel Dean, CB - Auburn
3. (95) New York Giants (From CLE): Oshane Ximines, DE - Old Dominion
4. (96) Buffalo Bills (From WSH): Dawson Knox, TE - Ole Miss
5. (97) Los Angeles Rams (From NE): Bobby Evans, T - Oklahoma
6. (98) Jacksonville Jaguars (From LAR): Quincy Williams, OLB - Murray State
7. (99) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (From LAR): Mike Edwards, S - Kentucky
8. (100) Carolina Panthers: Will Grier, QB - West Virginia
9. (101) New England Patriots (From LAR): Yodny Cajuste, T - West Virginia
10. (102) Minnesota Vikings (From BAL): Alexander Mattison, RB - Boise State

Now, as I've said before, I love Mattison and think he might just be better for us than any of the above. I sure hope so. But you're fooling yourself if you're saying there are no good players here. Even if I take off the TEs (already drafted one) I'm counting 11 players that I really liked, and a couple I know the Vikings liked. 

So that begs the question, did we get who we were targeting? Most people seem to think that Rick wanted Mattison, knew he could get him later, and so went into the 3rd round knowing he was going to trade down repeatedly in order to stock up on late round picks. That MIGHT be the case, but we don't know that for sure. Might be a little wishful thinking on our part. It feels better if you think the Vikings got exactly who they wanted. But I'm just throwing it out there: The Vikings may have gotten sniped a couple of times here. 

I look at the pick right before 88 and it's Damien Harris, a RB very similar to Mattison. I look at the pick right before 92 and it's Trey Pipkins, a player the Vikings spent a lot of time with. Just throwing it out there...

If you're talking to me, Maroon...  I didn't say there weren't any good players there.  I just questioned FSU on a) his assertion that there were 2nd round graded players we passed on and b) his statement that Rick Spielman passed on starters...  cost-controlled starters that we could have used instead of drafting a part-time player in Mattison (as he put it).

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@MaroonBells said:
Here are the players that went between their original pick at 81 and Alexander Mattison...

Vikings have pick 81, trade back to 88.

1. (81) Detroit Lions (From MIN): Will Harris, S - Boston College
2. (82) Tennessee Titans: Nate Davis, G - Charlotte
3. (83) Pittsburgh Steelers: Justin Layne, CB - Michigan State
4. (84) Kansas City Chiefs (From SEA): Khalen Saunders, DT - Western Illinois
5. (85) Baltimore Ravens: Jaylon Ferguson, DE - Louisiana Tech
6. (86) Houston Texans: Kahale Warring, TE - San Diego State
7. (87) New England Patriots (From CHI): Damien Harris, RB - Alabama

Vikings have pick 88, trade down to 92.

1. (88) Seattle Seahawks (From MIN): Cody Barton, OLB - Utah
2. (89) Indianapolis Colts: Bobby Okereke, OLB - Stanford
3. (90) Dallas Cowboys: Connor McGovern, G - Penn State
4. (91) Los Angeles Chargers: Trey Pipkins, OT - Sioux Falls

Vikings have pick 92, trade down to 93

1. (92) New York Jets (From MIN): Chuma Edoga, T - USC

Vikings have pick 93, trade down to 102

1. (93) Baltimore Ravens (From MIN): Miles Boykin, WR - Notre Dame
2. (94) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (From LAR): Jamel Dean, CB - Auburn
3. (95) New York Giants (From CLE): Oshane Ximines, DE - Old Dominion
4. (96) Buffalo Bills (From WSH): Dawson Knox, TE - Ole Miss
5. (97) Los Angeles Rams (From NE): Bobby Evans, T - Oklahoma
6. (98) Jacksonville Jaguars (From LAR): Quincy Williams, OLB - Murray State
7. (99) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (From LAR): Mike Edwards, S - Kentucky
8. (100) Carolina Panthers: Will Grier, QB - West Virginia
9. (101) New England Patriots (From LAR): Yodny Cajuste, T - West Virginia
10. (102) Minnesota Vikings (From BAL): Alexander Mattison, RB - Boise State

Now, as I've said before, I love Mattison and think he might just be better for us than any of the above. I sure hope so. But you're fooling yourself if you're saying there are no good players here. Even if I take off the TEs (already drafted one) I'm counting 11 players that I really liked, and a couple I know the Vikings liked. 

So that begs the question, did we get who we were targeting? Most people seem to think that Rick wanted Mattison, knew he could get him later, and so went into the 3rd round knowing he was going to trade down repeatedly in order to stock up on late round picks. That MIGHT be the case, but we don't know that for sure. Might be a little wishful thinking on our part. It feels better if you think the Vikings got exactly who they wanted. But I'm just throwing it out there: The Vikings may have gotten sniped a couple of times here. 

I look at the pick right before 88 and it's Damien Harris, a RB very similar to Mattison. I look at the pick right before 92 and it's Trey Pipkins, a player the Vikings spent a lot of time with. Just throwing it out there...

I would wager that is the most likely scenerio.  We had a short list of who we wanted and when the top few were gone, Rick knew he could get mattison later.
Although, if they like Pipkins, why not take him at 88?  Did we get good return on that drop?