Interesting take...

[comet52]

I disagree. KOC was hired to identify & develop the Vikings franchise QB. If JJM is dealt "for a bag of peanuts", that's more likely a fireable offense than the failure to win a playoff game.

If they just bring a Carson Wentz type in then yeah, he must have carte blanche from the Wilfs.  Do whatever, you've got the job regardless of it keeps going sideways at QB.

But I don't think they have given him that.  I think they expect a playoff win in year 5 of KOC, where they made a big roster spend and were sold high expectations by the hc/gm, and for him like for all of us, self preservation is a much more powerful motivator than some altruistic desire to hopefully develop JJM.  He didn't wrest g.m. power away from the one guy who could insist that he stay the course with JJM because he wants to be stuck in that box.  

Whoever they bring in at QB in the next couple of months will tell the tale.

[IceRatz16]

Of course. But its on the wish list of some....why, I have zero idea. Some like to watch it burn, I guess.

I think one just has to look at their home and realize the correlation isn't too far off.

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I don’t remember Drake Maye facing nearly this level of backlash last season or this past offseason.  Caleb Williams definitely caught heat, but the volume around McCarthy feels amplified.

Does McCarthy deserve some criticism?  Sure.  That comes with the position.  But the constant pitchforks and over-the-top rhetoric need to settle down.  He’s here, he’s going to get his opportunity, and development comes through consistent work, in the offseason and during the year.  He has the physical tools and competitive traits to become the kind of quarterback this fan base has been waiting for.

The bigger issue is the era we live in.  Instant gratification has been put on steroids by technology and nonstop media cycles.  Every throw is dissected. Every stat is weaponized. Patience is basically extinct.

And I get it, this fan base is tired.  Watching talented rosters come and go without a championship wears on people.  That frustration is real.  But sometimes growth takes time, especially at quarterback.

I’m betting this story isn’t finished and that patience will pay off sooner rather than later.

[MaroonBells]

I think one just has to look at their home and realize the correlation isn't too far off.

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I don’t remember Drake Maye facing nearly this level of backlash last season or this past offseason.  Caleb Williams definitely caught heat, but the volume around McCarthy feels amplified.

Does McCarthy deserve some criticism?  Sure.  That comes with the position.  But the constant pitchforks and over-the-top rhetoric need to settle down.  He’s here, he’s going to get his opportunity, and development comes through consistent work, in the offseason and during the year.  He has the physical tools and competitive traits to become the kind of quarterback this fan base has been waiting for.

The bigger issue is the era we live in.  Instant gratification has been put on steroids by technology and nonstop media cycles.  Every throw is dissected. Every stat is weaponized. Patience is basically extinct.

And I get it, this fan base is tired.  Watching talented rosters come and go without a championship wears on people.  That frustration is real.  But sometimes growth takes time, especially at quarterback.

I’m betting this story isn’t finished and that patience will pay off sooner rather than later.

In his defense, Maye didn't draw it on himself either. He didn't lose 30 lbs after an injury; he didn't then suffer a series of frustrating injuries that called into question his durability, if not frame; there was no "9," there was no early celebration, there was no social media commentary. McCarthy has some maturing to do, both on and off the field. 

But I agree with you that there are a lot of people on social media who seem to WANT to see him fail. I just put these people into a box of rocks with the other bots and twats on social media.

[StickierBuns]

In his defense, Maye didn't draw it on himself either. He didn't lose 30 lbs after an injury; he didn't then suffer a series of frustrating injuries that called into question his durability, if not frame; there was no "9," there was no early celebration, there was no social media commentary. McCarthy has some maturing to do, both on and off the field. 

lol, this still makes me laugh honestly. I still don't quite grasp it.

[MaroonBells]

lol, this still makes me laugh honestly. I still don't quite grasp it.

You don't think he has maturing to do?

[StickierBuns]

You don't think he has maturing to do?

I think its just his personality, I really do. I don't get the immaturity angle. He has to mature the same way any kid that age does, but he's fiery by nature. Again its JMO. And its not just me that thinks that, outside of this board of course lol. I think his injuries he had really really frustrated him as he wanted to show his worth. My two cents.

[MaroonBells]

I think its just his personality, I really do. I don't get the immaturity angle. He has to mature the same way any kid that age does, but he's fiery by nature. Again its JMO. And its not just me that thinks that, outside of this board of course lol. I think his injuries he had really really frustrated him as he wanted to show his worth. My two cents.

Well that's my main point. He's still very young. I'm not saying he's some kind of fuckup. Just that he has to take everything down a notch. I think it will come in time. But I agree that his injuries have likely filled him with an intense resolve to prove his worth to all who doubt him, and God knows there are a few. That can be a good thing, but it can also lead to poor decisions when you're 22 years old. Listen to your coaches, stop putting your body in harm's way, stay off social media and just let your progress speak for itself.

[comet52]

Telegraphing the breakup begins.

[Kentis]

Just saw Sam Darnold on Cowherd’s show. He thinks JJ is “talented, super smart, & going to be a great player!” He also said he understands why the Vikings made the decisions that they did. Sam is a great guy. 

[StickierBuns]

Telegraphing the breakup begins.

If anyone would know, it’s Patrick. lol. This is a kid that live streams himself announcing the Viking's games in real time.