Next QB? Look beyond the names you are hearing?

[purplefaithful]

6th round pick for Richardson?

I like the potential value in that...But he would be brought here to compete for QB1 imo.

Still not convinced thats the direction they want to go.

[MaroonBells]

only 2 from that list interest me,  willis if he doesnt want stupid money, this is not a guaranteed situation and he shouldnt get assumed starter money,  anything north of 20 would have him off my radar,  and the other is Richardson,  only because he is still relatively cheap,  still has a 5th year option available, and is young enough that any time invested in him wont be a waste even if he is only the #2.

my rules for the QB this offseason is no trade value higher than a 6th or 7th rounder,  no contract paying more than 15-20 million (although I think that is probably 3-4 times more than we should be spending), and no implied starting status.  JJM is our starter until he isnt IMO.

Right now, we have no definitive clue what we have in McCarthy. He could still develop nicely and be great; but he could also still be a total bust. I just fear that bringing in another young, totally unproven player like Levis and Richardson, while I get the big upside, there's a very real chance we end up with two busts instead of one. I think we need a QB who's put at least SOMETHING positive on tape.

[JimmyinSD]

Right now, we have no definitive clue what we have in McCarthy. He could still develop nicely and be great; but he could also still be a total bust. I just fear that bringing in another young, totally unproven player like Levis and Richardson, while I get the big upside, there's a very real chance we end up with two busts instead of one. I think we need a QB who's put at least SOMETHING positive on tape.

and when JJM gets nicked again, and the supporting QB comes in and out plays JJM.. then you have a QB controversy and that doesnt do JJM any good.  IMO you committed to finding a young QBOTF,  then stick to that plan for at least 1 more season,  if JJM doesnt show out next year,  then take the lumps,  prioritize QB in 27 draft and bring in your veteran mentor once again and start the process over.

[MaroonBells]

Kwesi just now in his presser...

When asked if he wants JJ to be the starter in 2026. 

“I want the #Vikings to achieve their goals… I think he has the character and ability to be the person to do that for this organization… it’s my job to bring that deep and competitive room that we’ve talked about to the Vikings...." 

And later, "our conversation is about returning the room to a competitive, deep enough standpoint to get that play-style, that ability to win games for 17 plus games in a season”

Sounds like the Vikings may indeed be looking for a competition instead of a backup.

[StickierBuns]

Kwesi just now in his presser...

When asked if he wants JJ to be the starter in 2026. 

“I want the #Vikings to achieve their goals… I think he has the character and ability to be the person to do that for this organization… it’s my job to bring that deep and competitive room that we’ve talked about to the Vikings...." 

And later, "our conversation is about returning the room to a competitive, deep enough standpoint to get that play-style, that ability to win games for 17 plus games in a season”

Sounds like the Vikings may indeed be looking for a competition instead of a backup.

So I stand by my contention that KOC will NOT allow what happened to the position this year happen again: an improved JJM will take the helm or someone will beat him out and start (I find the latter a much longer shot). So when he mentions competitive, I think part of that is moving on from any thought that Brosmer is a QB2 type player. He's not IMO, I had some initial hopes but those were blown out of the water. 

I think when the smoke clears and the competition (wink wink or real, we'll see) is over, McCarthy will be the starter for 2026.

[purplefaithful]

Kwesi just now in his presser...

When asked if he wants JJ to be the starter in 2026. 

“I want the #Vikings to achieve their goals… I think he has the character and ability to be the person to do that for this organization… it’s my job to bring that deep and competitive room that we’ve talked about to the Vikings...." 

And later, "our conversation is about returning the room to a competitive, deep enough standpoint to get that play-style, that ability to win games for 17 plus games in a season”

Sounds like the Vikings may indeed be looking for a competition instead of a backup.

^^Thats my take-away as well...

OTOH, they have to position it like that for now -- unless they want someone on sitting on their couch waiting to play (ala Wentz in 25) as part of that QB room.

[JimmyinSD]

So I stand by my contention that KOC will NOT allow what happened to the position this year happen again: an improved JJM will take the helm or someone will beat him out and start (I find the latter a much longer shot). So when he mentions competitive, I think part of that is moving on from any thought that Brosmer is a QB2 type player. He's not IMO, I had some initial hopes but those were blown out of the water. 

I think when the smoke clears and the competition (wink wink or real, we'll see) is over, McCarthy will be the starter for 2026.

Brosmer wasnt supposed to be a QB2,  the brain trust thought Sam Howell was their QB2,  Brosmer was a raw project that they thought could eventually be developed into a QB2.  People need to remember that Brosmer likely got no work in the offseason to prepare him to start of even play much,  I would guess it was more about messing with his mechanics or trying to speed up his process or whatever,  he still shouldnt be part of the conversation other than he has shown that the game might not be to big for him at some point IMO.

all that said,  who the fuck picked sam howell?  I dont want him anywhere near this decision,  and if they are going to go after the best players they can for that room, then its likely that they can find one that is more ready than JJM,  maybe not a higher potential, and certainly not cheaper, but they can find that guy, but then if that is all we care about,  why isnt Cousins still here?  The point was to get cheaper, younger, and more mobile, even if we had to lose a few to get there.

[purplefaithful]

So I stand by my contention that KOC will NOT allow what happened to the position this year happen again: an improved JJM will take the helm or someone will beat him out and start (I find the latter a much longer shot). So when he mentions competitive, I think part of that is moving on from any thought that Brosmer is a QB2 type player. He's not IMO, I had some initial hopes but those were blown out of the water. 

I think when the smoke clears and the competition (wink wink or real, we'll see) is over, McCarthy will be the starter for 2026.

Yah, nfw they can let what happened at the position re-occur. Too many players that are high paid and in their primes. 

Although, when you are down to your #3 qb, your just battling "really bad luck" at that point...

KOC always had a chubby for Richardson, and while he doesnt fit some competition scenarios neatly & cleanly? I do think he's a real possibility.

[MaroonBells]

^^Thats my take-away as well...

OTOH, they have to position it like that for now -- unless they want someone on sitting on their couch waiting to play (ala Wentz in 25) as part of that QB room.

That's exactly right. Whether it's a real competition or just an ostensible one, the Vikings have to couch it as a competition or else they will eliminate certain QBs from coming here. But I'm beginning to think it will be a real one.

[MaroonBells]

So I stand by my contention that KOC will NOT allow what happened to the position this year happen again: an improved JJM will take the helm or someone will beat him out and start (I find the latter a much longer shot). So when he mentions competitive, I think part of that is moving on from any thought that Brosmer is a QB2 type player. He's not IMO, I had some initial hopes but those were blown out of the water. 

I think when the smoke clears and the competition (wink wink or real, we'll see) is over, McCarthy will be the starter for 2026.

I think Brosmer showed that he's not ready to be a QB2. But I also think late in the season he put together some competence that did show he's a pretty good developmental QB to have on the team as QB3. 

It feels more and more like the Vikings will bring in serious, legitimate competition for JJ. Who that QB is and how capable he is of beating out JJ is going to be the most fascinating story of our offseason. It sure is never boring.