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Caleb Williams
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(09-09-2024, 02:45 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: At the bold...

I'm sure he'll get better too. 

Manning and Aikman struggled their rook years and are HOF. I'm not predicting anything for the kid, including him being the next Trubisky. 

But he wasn't the #1 overall pick without some pretty high upside. 

He's quirky and does his own thing, which is going to rub some fans in all the wrong ways. 

Only reason I wont root for him is cause he's a Bear.

Plenty of stories about #1 picks that went bust at the QB spot.
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I thought it was interesting how much some of these coaches put on their rookies plate rather than give them help. Bo Nix threw it 40 times in his debut. Jayden Daniels had 40 combined passes and rushes.

Conventional wisdom would suggest you run the ball pretty heavily and make life easier for your QB while they're getting acclimated.
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(09-10-2024, 06:37 AM)medaille Wrote: I thought it was interesting how much some of these coaches put on their rookies plate rather than give them help.  Bo Nix threw it 40 times in his debut.  Jayden Daniels had 40 combined passes and rushes.

Conventional wisdom would suggest you run the ball pretty heavily and make life easier for your QB while they're getting acclimated.

Good observation. I think we've all read a bunch of stories this offseason about franchises having 'dirty hands', but not seeing many washing them in the sink. Same ol', same ol'.
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(09-09-2024, 08:08 PM)comet52 Wrote: His accuracy is not good, and I didn't notice it that much looking at his college film.  The only reason they won that game yesterday was that Will Levis was actually worse than Caleb.

I know CHI has a good defense but I was surprised how bad Levis looked. Wonder if he'll turn it around. If he doesn't soon, TEN will be drafting QB in April.

Bryce Young I thought would take a step forward too. NOPE. Probably safe to call that prediction wrong lol.

Kirk I have said all along I had serious concerns about his Achilles, so his dud wasn't surprising to me. Why everyone was giving him a clean bill of health all summer, I'm still not sure. Rodgers is old but he had more zip on his throws than Kirk to my eyes. He also has had longer to recover.

Overall, QB play leaguewide wasn't great on Sunday. TDs and passing yards are down drastically YOY, likely due to no one playing much in the preseason.

Of all the QBs, Darnold was probably the one who played "above his head" the most, versus what people thought might happen. Baker and Carr too.

Fun weekend, so glad NFL is back.
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Darnold is going on year 7 and I was hoping they kept him to 30 or > pass attempts on Sunday.

Those are crazy #'s for a rook qb, game 1.
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(09-10-2024, 03:53 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Plenty of stories about #1 picks that went bust at the QB spot.

I wonder if more QBs taken #1 overall go bust than succeed. Or maybe even widen it to top 10 now that teams go nuts taking 2nd and 3rd round (or lower, Trey Lance) QB prospects at the top of the draft.
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(09-10-2024, 09:23 AM)comet52 Wrote: I wonder if more QBs taken #1 overall go bust than succeed.  Or maybe even widen it to top 10 now that teams go nuts taking 2nd and 3rd round (or lower, Trey Lance) QB prospects at the top of the draft.

Here's the complete list:

Year Player (College) Team
2023 Bryce Young (Alabama) Carolina Panthers
2021 Trevor Lawrence (Clemson) Jacksonville Jaguars
2020 Joe Burrow (LSU) Cincinnati Bengals
2019 Kyler Murray (Oklahoma) Arizona Cardinals
2018 Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma) Cleveland Browns
2016 Jared Goff (California) St. Louis Rams
2015 Jameis Winston (Florida State) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2012 Andrew Luck (Stanford) Indianapolis Colts
2011 Cam Newton (Auburn) Carolina Panhers
2010 Sam Bradford (Oklahoma) St. Louis Rams
2009 Matthew Stafford (Georgia) Detroit Lions
2007 JaMarcus Russell (LSU) Oakland Raiders
2005 Alex Smith (Utah) San Francisco 49ers
2004 Eli Manning (Ole Miss) San Diego Chargers
2003 Carson Palmer (USC) Cincinnati Bengals
2002 David Carr (Fresno State) Houston Texans
2001 Michael Vick (Virginia Tech) Atlanta Falcons
1999 Tim Couch (Kentucky) Cleveland Browns
1998 Peyton Manning (Tennessee) Indianapolis Colts
1993 Drew Bledsoe (Washington State) New England Patriots
1990 Jeff George (Illinois) Indianapolis Colts
1989 Troy Aikman (UCLA) Dallas Cowboys
1987 Vinny Testaverde (Miami) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1983 John Elway (Stanford) Baltimore Colts
1975 Steve Bartkowski (California) Atlanta Falcons
1971 Jim Plunkett (Stanford) New England Patriots
1970 Terry Bradshaw (Louisiana Tech) Pittsburgh Steelers
1963 Terry Baker (Oregon State) Los Angeles Rams
1959 Randy Duncan (Iowa) Green Bay Packers
1958 King Hill (Rice) Chicago Cardinals
1955 George Shaw (Oregon) Baltimore Colts
1954 Bobby Garrett (Stanford) Cleveland Browns
1952 Bill Wade (Vanderbilt) Los Angeles Rams
1946 Frank Dancewicz (Notre Dame) Boston Yanks
1944 Angelo Bertelli (Notre Dame) Boston Yanks
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