Who ever wins the election, will have an economy tailwind

[JimmyinSD]

...especially as the tariff snarling with all involved will ALWAYS, according to economists everywhere, cost the consumer first and always.

It's gonna get worse, first...and likely for some time. Orange boi's act is showing cracks early, even among his enablers.

as does about everything govt intervention does.... lets talk about taxing the rich... minimum wage hikes... increased regulations... who pays...the consumer, but one thing that may ( and I admit its not a lock) shift the balance,  is countering the imbalance with tariffs and other such penalties to free trade.   Our govt has done more to wreck our economy than any foreign action.  We have this notion that we have to lead by example and all that does is cost American jobs and increase our taxes and cost.  Programs like the recovery act and Arpa have done more damage to our debt and economy than any tariff.  they used increased deficit spending to try and stimulate the economy when all they did was line the pockets of a select few and pass that debt expense onto every American tax payer in the future.  at least with tariffs the pain is now,   its affects can be seen,  regulated, and controlled in the present instead of passing that financial burden onto our children.

Trump isnt the issue,  its a fiscal matter IMO,  you cant dig yourself out of a hole. its not that I am big Trump supporter,  but he has at least put down the shovel economically,  and has proven to be the least war mongering leader we have had in decades.

FUCK!!! I wasnt going to respond to you anymore...well tee it up, I have been drinking for 4 hours and forgot to moderate myself.

[Zanary]

as does about everything govt intervention does.... lets talk about taxing the rich... minimum wage hikes... increased regulations... who pays...the consumer, but one thing that may ( and I admit its not a lock) shift the balance,  is countering the imbalance with tariffs and other such penalties to free trade.   Our govt has done more to wreck our economy than any foreign action.  We have this notion that we have to lead by example and all that does is cost American jobs and increase our taxes and cost.  Programs like the recovery act and Arpa have done more damage to our debt and economy than any tariff.  they used increased deficit spending to try and stimulate the economy when all they did was line the pockets of a select few and pass that debt expense onto every American tax payer in the future.  at least with tariffs the pain is now,   its affects can be seen,  regulated, and controlled in the present instead of passing that financial burden onto our children.

Trump isnt the issue,  its a fiscal matter IMO,  you cant dig yourself out of a hole. its not that I am big Trump supporter,  but he has at least put down the shovel economically,  and has proven to be the least war mongering leader we have had in decades.

FUCK!!!  I wasnt going to respond to you anymore...well tee it up, I have been drinking for 4 hours and forgot to moderate myself.

...knock back another tall one, I really don't gun for you. As I've said many, many times here...I'm all about the dark humor and the rabid defenses of the indefensible.

I've never lied one bit when I say that I've watched our hideous prez lie like a rug for decades, nor that I found Biden's drooling decay to be tragic. I have zero faith, more likely negative faith, that our career attention whore president cares about anything above staying in the headlines...and the massive swings/misses/corrections by the DOGE stooges (who Elon heads, WHOOPS, doesn't actually work for...?) are clear proof of that. I mean, dismissal of nuclear arsenal people...cuts in the very people that are needed for fire prevention...huge, obvious revenge investigations/firings on anyone in gov't service that investigated and/or disagreed with him...

...and that's beyond his cuddling his mass-murder/rape fan buddy in Moscow...this is all in daily headlines of every news source that ISN'T covering his ass.

It's not about you. Yes, as long as the uncomprehending one insists on his usual poor gamesmanship, there will be "snips" (you're ok with those, remember?), and I don't think calling out defenses of large-scale frauds and murderers is out of line. In fact, society used to find that important.

I don't exist to complicate your world, or even to further your drinking. That said, I think a couple fingers and a single cube sound like a fine idea.

[BigAl99]

doesnt really matter how I did,  its how the country did and it went on its ass.  I can live with higher taxes ( when they are used wisely) I will champion for smaller government when it means less spending,  but less for the average AMERICAN coupled with increased spending... thats where I call bull shit.  The last 4 years were among the worst in US history,  and sadly it had little to do with Covid.  It was a policy failure coupled with theft.   I did ok, but was doing better under Trump prior to covid, and honestly my biggest month in investments was shortly after the covid collapse when those on the wheel realized that the media wasnt telling the truth,  but I am willing to admit that wasnt all from him,  are you willing to say his policies aided your portfolio as well?

Yeah I had a good three years, don't want to get into manhood measuring.  The question is how are we going to quantify whats going on now?  I know it's Friday night but could you clarify your last sentence  the "on the wheel thing" and "media not telling the truth"  kinda seemed non congruent.   As this thread was about in November the economy was looking good, the tailwind thing, whoever was going to win would be in good shape.