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So who's responsibility is it?
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The city, the state, the parent???

A 10-year-old boy who has been suspected in various crimes including robbery and auto theft has been arrested and charged after police say he recklessly drove a stolen car across a crowded Minneapolis school playground, narrowly missing multiple children.

The boy was booked Thursday into the Hennepin County Juvenile Detention Center on suspicion of second-degree assault in connection with the incident at 11:45 a.m. on a school day Sept. 20, , outside Nellie Stone Johnson Community School in the 800 block of 27th Avenue N., police said.

Police records indicate that the boy, whose identity is being withheld by law enforcement because of his age, has at least 30 entries dating to May 2023.

He has been arrested at least twice before for auto theft-related crimes, according to police. He’s also listed as a suspect in more than 12 cases that range from auto theft to robbery to assault with a dangerous weapon. The remaining entries are mostly related to cases involving running away, police said.

Police records say one of the boy’s auto thefts occurred late last year when he was 9 years old and stood 5 feet tall at that time.

The boy’s mother told the Star Tribune that her son was due in court Friday afternoon on allegations of stealing the car and “assaulting the person whose car it was.” The Star Tribune is not identifying her in order to protect the boy’s identity.

The woman, who lives in Minneapolis, did acknowledge that her son steals cars, “but why he does it, I don’t know. He doesn’t come from a bad home. I’m a single mom. His father passed away.”

She pointed to “kids who are in the community who are older and getting him into that. He’s traumatized by these older kids. ... I want my son to get help. He’s a 10-year-old kid.”

Police Chief Brian O’Hara said the 10-year-old’s family is cooperating with police and have asked for help to keep the boy or anyone else from being injured or killed.

“It is unfathomable that a 10-year-old boy has been involved in this level of criminal activity without effective intervention,” O’Hara said in a statement. “Prison is not an acceptable option for a 10-year-old boy. But the adults who can stop this behavior going forward must act now to help this child and his family.

“This is only one example of the revolving door we’re dealing with – arresting and re-arresting the same juveniles for auto theft and other violent crimes. This is a complex issue, and we need every entity involved in intervention to come together immediately to establish short- and long-term solutions.”

Late Friday morning, the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office said in a statement that the boy has been charged “because of the very significant safety implications both for this child and the broader community.”

While the statement from County Attorney Mary Moriarty’s office announcing the charges in juvenile court said the law prevents prosecutors from saying more about this case, a person, including a child, cannot be prosecuted if they are not capable of understanding the legal proceedings or assisting their lawyer in the defense. 

A court-appointed psychologist makes a recommendation on competency to a judge who ultimately makes the decision. If a child is found not competent by the court, the case against them must be dismissed or suspended, and the child must be released from custody.

“We are facing an urgent crisis in our community related to a small group of children who are not competent to stand trial in the juvenile justice system, but who cannot safely be at home,” the statement continued. “We are actively engaged with law enforcement, as well as county and state partners, about the critical need for safe and appropriate out-of-home placements for children with these complex needs who require specialized care. We cannot charge or prosecute our way out of this crisis.

“What we need is clear: residential placements with varying levels of security in our community that are resourced and staffed to be able to accept and successfully treat our youth with complex needs. And we need urgent and immediate action to address this issue now.”

Source: Startribune
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#2
WTF..."NOT COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL" we are talking juvenile court with juvenile consequences, its that mentality alone is why is in this mess and will continue to be in these messes until he is put away for murder.

a 10 year old should sure as fuck know right from wrong enough to know that this type of behavior is not allowed. start with the mom, I am sure its not easy, but with a rap sheet like that kid is carrying (remember, these are only the things he got caught doing ) its pretty obvious that she isnt up for the task of parenting this kid, get him out of that home, out of that neighborhood, I hate foster care or group homes, but they are a necessity some times IMO.

Next, the system that allows it to get to this point needs to be evaluated, that bull shit from the county attorney is a bunch of shit, its that limp wristed approach to law enforcement that turns kids into adult offenders. Seems that there is a lot of blame to go around, but most importantly isnt blame, its identifying what went wrong so it doesnt happen to more kids in similar situations.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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#3
It's nationwide; there's a huge rash of juveniles committing assaults/carjackings/murders up here, and there truly is a "do it before there's adult consequences" attitude about it; that's even listed as reasoning for certain crimes.

I know, from classes, tests, data, and reports, that the whole "spanking" and what-not many of us knew as kids has supposedly been proven scarring and traumatizing according to many behavioral scientists. I would like their data compared to modern reality.
LET'S WREAK SOME FUGGIN' HAVOK, VIKINGS!!! SKOL!!!
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#4
Listening to more about this locally....

The mom is not capable of raising this kid (duh) w/out assistance or turning him over to someone else to raise. I know thats callous, especially for a single mom.

There is no place in the system for him to go is the problem. Its a big, black hole. His path is pretty clear w/out intervention.

Like everything else, it comes down to $ and priorities.
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#5
We can take it all the way back to the need for dual-income families, various assaults on values (though that leads into religious arguments, which tend to be among the ugliest), and also the sad fact that corporations trim a ton of "fat" in terms of people, perks, and the kinds of assistance that help societies.

Some businesses want to be successful to be pillars of their communities/societies, tend to invest in programs that help the overall populace, and take pride in the many ways to succeed beyond their balance sheet. Others are all about rewarding investors and managers, and these are typically the same that like to remind employees how replaceable everyone is.

Both provide jobs/careers, and there are certainly many that combine elements of both. However, I learned a long time back that some of my favorite employers asked things like my preferred cake flavors and for birthday purposes, and personal interests/hobbies, instead of just my W4 info.
LET'S WREAK SOME FUGGIN' HAVOK, VIKINGS!!! SKOL!!!
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(10-05-2024, 09:11 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Listening to more about this locally....

The mom is not capable of raising this kid (duh) w/out assistance or turning him over to someone else to raise. I know thats callous, especially for a single mom.

There is no place in the system for him to go is the problem. Its a big, black hole. His path is pretty clear w/out intervention.

Like everything else, it comes down to $ and priorities.

I dont think there are any easy answers, at least for kids like this one. There a plenty of things to point blame at, but i think we may be to far gone as a society to ever put that genie back in the bottle. Perhaps the best thing for the future of our race is a great reset.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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(10-05-2024, 11:26 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: I dont think there are any easy answers,  at least for kids like this one.  There a plenty of things to point blame at,  but i think we may be to far gone as a society to ever put that genie back in the bottle.  Perhaps the best thing for the future of our race is a great reset.

Pass, the ones who came out OK shouldn't have to get deleted for the ones who failed.

My kid turned out better than I could have imagined, and there are some that give me hope.
LET'S WREAK SOME FUGGIN' HAVOK, VIKINGS!!! SKOL!!!
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(10-05-2024, 01:49 PM)Zanary Wrote: Pass, the ones who came out OK shouldn't have to get deleted for the ones who failed.

My kid turned out better than I could have imagined, and there are some that give me hope.

Sure, many do seem to turn out ok, but the overall general direction of our species seems to be getting shittier with each generation, it seems the more we do to be better, it just creates new ways for us to be worse
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