I thought "this" wasn't about the flag/anthem?

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@JimmyinSD said:
I don't know who that author is,  but his message is likely correct.  This move/movement will not likely sit well with a good chunk of the NFLs fanbase and it will be noticed in the bottom line,   and bottom liine that the players union  that represent that largely black group of players depends on for their ever increasing contractual demands.

Wait and see I guess.

I guess the old saying "a fond adieu" is appropriate, with the caveat, pay attention to the door as leave

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@BigAl99 said:

@JimmyinSD said:
I don't know who that author is,  but his message is likely correct.  This move/movement will not likely sit well with a good chunk of the NFLs fanbase and it will be noticed in the bottom line,   and bottom liine that the players union  that represent that largely black group of players depends on for their ever increasing contractual demands.

Wait and see I guess.

I guess the old saying "a fond adieu" is appropriate, with the caveat, pay attention to the door as leave

how much do you spend annually with the  NFL?

Me?  maybe a few grand if I go to a game or two, and buying licensed products.   I doubt they would even care if I walked away.

but rest assured this isnt about what you or I spend,  and its sure as hell not about social reform.   Its about a bottom line and if the sponsors and such start taking hits,  if the league starts taking hits to their bottom lines,  well I am sure your cavalier response will not be echoed from the league head quarters.  They dont give a shit about anything but over loaded armored cars hauling them their revenues annually.

like I said though,  time will tell if the league actually follows through,  if the movement sustains momentum,  or if the irate fans actually do quit watching and spending money with the sponsors.

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Wait and see

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@MaroonBells said:

@savannahskol said:

@StickyBun said:
What a surprise.....(eye roll)....Victor Hanson, lol.

Hanson is a supporter of Donald Trump, authoring a 2019 book The Case for Trump.[20] Trump praised the book.[20] In the book, Hanson defends Trump's insults and incendiary language as "uncouth authenticity", and praises Trump for "an uncanny ability to troll and create hysteria among his media and political critics.

Your snippet re: Hanson (from Wiki) is grossly unfair and intellectually  dishonest.  
Your quote(s) above, is/are attributed to Peruvian Carlos Lozada {20}, Wa-Po journalist.  
And Lozada's quotes, are not facts....but opinions on VDH's works. Fair enough....if that's what you want to characterize. 


Here's some facts on VDH, from the same Wiki article, you quoted. 
VDH's  Curriculum Vitae:   

Raised as a farmer's son in the central California farmland valley. 
Received highest honors as an undergrad @UC-Santa Cruz. 
Graduate PH.D from Stanford. 
Professor Emeritus at CSU-Fresno, Classics. 
Senior fellow at Stanford U's Hoover Institute of both Classics and Military History.  
American philogical association's educator of the year, award. 
Awarded Shifrin Chair of Military History from the United States Naval Academy 
(don't look now, but the US military academies are recognized top-notch in academe)
NUMEROUS other awards. (see Wiki)
And VDH is a regular contributor to the "never Trump" National Review.  




Does that give you any intellectual pause?  

A:  No, it doesn't.  


You took a lousy snippet from a competing (yes, the Wa-Po &/Lozado have clearly taken sides) rag...and not only denigrated VDH's works, but also displayed your ignorance for all to see.  


You love "parent brag threads", right?  Imagine your son achieved what VDH has achieved.  
You'd be rightfully proud.  

VDH has credibility because he contributes to a magazine whose editors once came out against Trump? Umm….oh never mind. 

The "point" of my "Against Trump"/ NR-post inclusion (above), was... to persuade Sticky that VDH was an intellectual/thinker/non-ideologue.

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@MaroonBells said:

@savannahskol said:

nvmd