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[comet52]

Just hypothetically speaking...at what point would you pull the plug on the Kwesi/Grigson experiment? I know the Wilfs won't do it, but at what point as a fan would you do it? He has been wildly unsuccessful when it comes to the draft and because of that he's had to go out and spend big in free agency to fill those misses, and now those older veterans just aren't producing. We are four years in and haven't come close to winning a playoff game. How much longer would you continue down this path if you were running things before pulling the plug? I am well on record as saying I never would have hired him in the first place and the deficiencies I pointed out on his resume have played out pretty consistently. I think if this year plays out and we still don't know what we have at quarterback and we are worse off rosterwise than what we ended the season with last year, extension be damned...a move needs to be made

The Wilfs and Andrew Miller Baseball Analytics Guy wanted to do it this way with KAM.  I wasn't opposed to the hire but if you're going all-analytics at the g.m. position you needed to hire a really good personnel guy and fix a scouting department that hadn't really pulled off a great draft since maybe 2015.   Neither of those things happened.  They hired Grigson who was a certified disaster at Indy and the scouting department wasn't really turned over, just expanded which hasn't caused any improvement -- it's arguably a lot worse based on results.   

Thing is as kmillard pointed out, the Wilfs won't change a thing unless there is loud blowback from the fanbase.  I would never have hired Grigson so when would I pull the plug is sort of moot.  KOC/KAM managed two seasons with a lot of wins and got themselves new contracts but personally I see a lot of issues with both.   It's an interesting question you asked but sadly, ownership imo has been the problem here for all of the 20 years they've had the team.  I've viewed most of their hires and moves with great skepticism and over time that's proven correct as we haven't produced any real contending teams outside of 2009.   The franchise of futility has simply continued doing business as usual.

[hogjowlsjohnny]

Just hypothetically speaking...at what point would you pull the plug on the Kwesi/Grigson experiment? I know the Wilfs won't do it, but at what point as a fan would you do it? He has been wildly unsuccessful when it comes to the draft and because of that he's had to go out and spend big in free agency to fill those misses, and now those older veterans just aren't producing. We are four years in and haven't come close to winning a playoff game. How much longer would you continue down this path if you were running things before pulling the plug? I am well on record as saying I never would have hired him in the first place and the deficiencies I pointed out on his resume have played out pretty consistently. I think if this year plays out and we still don't know what we have at quarterback and we are worse off rosterwise than what we ended the season with last year, extension be damned...a move needs to be made

Actually I would say at this point right here and now. For me it has more to do with basic philosophy of ownership. The Wilf's have hired people with out a football background to run their organization. They gambled on a stockbroker. They set up a triangle of authority. They hired a head coach that nobody else would hire! They are gamblers hoping that a nontraditional approach will pave the road to a championship. It's more than hiring a GM who can't identify talent in the draft and brings in free agents with an injury history all too often. It's an attitude that you can outsmart the established best and brightest minds in the game without hiring the best and the brightest. 
It's a physical game and even the Rams superbowl winning team, which may have appeared to outsmart its opponents, had a strong physical core to support its skill players. Vikings don't have that.
The only way I see this group becoming competitive is if JJ comes back, stays healthy, and lights it up. What are the odds of that happening?

[AGRforever]

I’m a ride or die guy on KOC. If you want to reboot the scouting and GM positions have at it.

[supafreak84]

I think there's been some great points made here, but these are the facts on the Wilfs. They are rich fans who know as much about football as they do about rocket ships and that's apparent from the way they've ran the organization since they bought it. They've done some great things with the stadium and facilities that have put us towards the top in terms of organizational rankings, but they really don't know what they are doing when it comes to actual football and almost seem to be more interested in social causes, minority hires, male cheerleaders, and checking certain boxes than hiring the best and most knowledgeable people to win football games. There's really no other explanation as to why their finalists for the GM job was a black stock trader with close to zero football experience and a female from Philadelphia who is now the assistant GM of the dysfunctional Cleveland Browns. They we're determined to make a DEI hire on the heels of George Floyd, firing two old white guys, and the league strongly pushing for minority front office hires. Theres no way the Wilfs choice wasnt going to be a person of color or a female, qualifications be damned. So they've now made their bed and now we are all having to lie in it. I know that opinion ruffles some feathers, but when you look at all the facts surrounding the Kwesi hire, it's not hard to connect the dots to understand what it was. The mistake has been compounded by bringing in Ryan Grigson as Kwesi's right hand man and giving him a voice at the draft table.