This just isn't going to end well, is it..sigh

[greediron]

Prioritization and $$$. If its not going to get done on the Fed level? Then its up to the states...

But the states are already scrambling and stretched. IOW, I am not expecting much to change. 

Oh, we're having our discussions in MN after last weeks church murders, but I am expecting little bi-partisan action,.

hopefully people are willing to discuss it now.  The psych meds have a use, but they also have side effects. If we could actually discuss it openly, it would be a start.

I would welcome a state or private solution rather than a top down federal one.

[JimmyinSD]

Prioritization and $$$. If its not going to get done on the Fed level? Then its up to the states...

But the states are already scrambling and stretched. IOW, I am not expecting much to change. 

Oh, we're having our discussions in MN after last weeks tragedy in a catholic church, but I am expecting little bi-partisan action as an outcome.

its going to be hard to find bi-partisanship on an topic when those involved cant even agree what it is they are trying to fix,  and only when there is trust.  until the parties quit trying to "gotcha" the other side when they have the conche,  nobody is going to be willing to cede an inch IMO.

[medaille]

I feel like you guys are living in some sort of bizarro reality.

Trust of our governments and of our medical institutions is at an all time low. We can’t even take care of our elderly or military veterans in a dignified manner. Cost to house a prisoner is like $65k a year. Cost to house an elderly person is $120k in a nursing home. Institutions died out in large part because they cost too much … back when we could afford things. Nevermind the issues with giving the government the power to determine who is too mentally ill and needs to be imprisoned, in a world where several states are actively letting actual criminals back out on the streets. Who should get imprisoned? If you go back 15 years ago, everyone would probably agree that conspiracy theorists were mentally ill with their tin foil hats and what not, but here we are now, where literally everyone is a conspiracy theorist, and probably like half the population believes their politicians participated at Epstein island, the left celebrates their mental illnesses, their traumas, and their therapy.

Like lets start with nursing homes and figuring out how to make being old affordable and a dignified way to live the home stretch of our lives.

[greediron]

I feel like you guys are living in some sort of bizarro reality.

Trust of our governments and of our medical institutions is at an all time low.  We can’t even take care of our elderly or military veterans in a dignified manner.  Cost to house a prisoner is like $65k a year.  Cost to house an elderly person is $120k in a nursing home.  Institutions died out in large part because they cost too much … back when we could afford things.  Nevermind the issues with giving the government the power to determine who is too mentally ill and needs to be imprisoned, in a world where several states are actively letting actual criminals back out on the streets.  Who should get imprisoned?  If you go back 15 years ago, everyone would probably agree that conspiracy theorists were mentally ill with their tin foil hats and what not, but here we are now, where literally everyone is a conspiracy theorist, and probably like half the population believes their politicians participated at Epstein island, the left celebrates their mental illnesses, their traumas, and their therapy.

Like lets start with nursing homes and figuring out how to make being old affordable and a dignified way to live the home stretch of our lives.

Well as I said, federal control doesn't seem to be the way.  Nursing home are a good example because of medicare/medicaid and the rampant fraud that goes with it.

Institutions are costly, but the cost of the homeless/mentally ill isn't nothing.  And something has to be done.

[JustInTime]

We could take care of the elderly, incapacitated, disabled etc if it was a priority, particularly to the current administration. 

Instead, they put up a concentration camp in the swamps of Florida to the tune of $225 million. Waste and fraud in Medicare and Medicaid? Peanuts compared to the money that will be spent painting the wall black. 

Maybe stop electing folks who are too busy protecting pedophiles and vote for folks who might care about the welfare of their constituents?

Is that virtue signaling or just not being an asshole?

[Waterboy]

We could take care of the elderly, incapacitated, disabled etc if it was a priority, particularly to the current administration. 

Instead, they put up a concentration camp in the swamps of Florida to the tune of $225 million. Waste and fraud in Medicare and Medicaid? Peanuts compared to the money that will be spent painting the wall black. 

Maybe stop electing folks who are too busy protecting pedophiles and vote for folks who might care about the welfare of their constituents?

Is that virtue signaling or just not being an asshole?

I'd love to see your calculations for waste and fraud in Medicare and Medicaid as compared to the cost of painting the wall black.  I'm sure it's factual. lol

Concentration Camps, huh?  I thinks libs think that the more preposterous their claims, the more people will listen.  Oh, the rest of us listen.  We listen and are assured just how crazy TDS sufferers become.  Congratulations on sounding every bit as delusional as your counterparts. lol