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TheWinterSKOLdier

Just hired as their OC. That sucks. Was hoping we'd have him for at least another season, as he seems someone who was very valuable to KOC and the QB room.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/4371...oc-jaguars

StickierBuns

Talented people move onward and upward, part of the deal. Good for Udinski. McCarthy had a year with him which I'm sure he benefitted from. Not sure the team needs to replace him as he was an assistant QB coach, but maybe they will. KOC has a bigger than average staff of coaches. Liam Coen is the new HC there and I'm going to guess he's going to be calling the plays on the sidelines or heavily involved in calling plays/gameplan, so this will be almost like an 'assistant' OC spot much like Wes Phillips does now with Minnesota as KOC is the play caller. It'll be a good spot for Udinski to learn and contribute more interactively, especially with a QB like Lawrence that isn't limited in arm strength or mobility compared to where he may have gone and that not being the case.

I personally don't worry about losing coaches, you just need to pick the next up-and-comer to replace them as a bunch of high aptitude guys are just waiting for their shot. The Vikings organization has a great reputation and is a very good landing spot, but generally teams will promote from within if they have the base which I believe Minnesota does.

TheWinterSKOLdier · 1 hour ago

(2 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: Talented people move onward and upward, part of the deal. Good for Udinski. McCarthy had a year with him which I'm sure he benefitted from. Not sure the team needs to replace him as he was an assistant QB coach, but maybe they will. KOC has a bigger than average staff of coaches. Liam Coen is the new HC there and I'm going to guess he's going to be calling the plays on the sidelines or heavily involved in calling plays/gameplan, so this will be almost like an 'assistant' OC spot much like Wes Phillips does now with Minnesota as KOC is the play caller. It'll be a good spot for Udinski to learn and contribute more interactively, especially with a QB like Lawrence that isn't limited in arm strength or mobility compared to where he may have gone and that not being the case.
I personally don't worry about losing coaches, you just need to pick the next up-and-comer to replace them as a bunch of high aptitude guys are just waiting for their shot. The Vikings organization has a great reputation and is a very good landing spot, but generally teams will promote from within if they have the base which I believe Minnesota does.

That's the biggest takeaway for me about him leaving. Regardless of who'll be in that QB room next season, I felt that Udinski was a good sounding board for JJ and was able to give him personal time that maybe McCown couldn't.

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J.J. McCarthy called him almost nightly this summer with questions on the Vikings' scheme.

https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-vi.../601177942

MaroonBells · 1 hour ago

Sounds like Udinski has a bright future, but good programs are going to lose good people. I'm not sure if the coaching carousel is over yet, but if he's the only coach we lose this offseason, I think we have to consider that a win.

TheWinterSKOLdier · 27 minutes ago

(1 hour ago)MaroonBells Wrote: Sounds like Udinski has a bright future, but good programs are going to lose good people. I'm not sure if the coaching carousel is over yet, but if he's the only coach we lose this offseason, I think we have to consider that a win.

Agreed. Daronte Jones, McCardell are some others that I thought might leave this offseason. Glad to have most of the band back, though.

Canthony · 11 minutes ago

(2 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: Talented people move onward and upward, part of the deal. Good for Udinski. McCarthy had a year with him which I'm sure he benefitted from. Not sure the team needs to replace him as he was an assistant QB coach, but maybe they will. KOC has a bigger than average staff of coaches. Liam Coen is the new HC there and I'm going to guess he's going to be calling the plays on the sidelines or heavily involved in calling plays/gameplan, so this will be almost like an 'assistant' OC spot much like Wes Phillips does now with Minnesota as KOC is the play caller. It'll be a good spot for Udinski to learn and contribute more interactively, especially with a QB like Lawrence that isn't limited in arm strength or mobility compared to where he may have gone and that not being the case.

I personally don't worry about losing coaches, you just need to pick the next up-and-comer to replace them as a bunch of high aptitude guys are just waiting for their shot. The Vikings organization has a great reputation and is a very good landing spot, but generally teams will promote from within if they have the base which I believe Minnesota does.

I think Josh McCown has a lot of respect on this staff. I didn't want to lose Josh. He was always talking to Darnold on the sidelines. Always in Darnold year. I believe Josh was bigger for this team and QBs than we realize. JJ said in an interview, I can't remember which one, that he is constantly talking and texting Josh questions. Talking about situations that come up or if a certain situation comes up. McCown has a great chance to develop here in MN under KOC. That is who I didn't want to lose.