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MaroonBells · 1 hour ago

At this point two years ago, the Vikings were also 8-2. But...

"There's just no comparison between those teams," said Aaron Schatz, the creator of DVOA who is now the chief analytics officer of FTN Fantasy and a contributor to ESPN. "The 2022 team was close to the strangest year I've ever seen. This year is a completely different situation. The Vikings this season are playing like an 8-2 team. There's no luck involved here. They have played that well."

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/4248...-jefferson

NorseFeathers · 1 hour ago

An upgrade at linebackers and a huge upgrade in defensive coordinator. This is a better team.

purplefaithful · 1 hour ago

Yes, I think this is better than KOC's first team. Its because of BFlo for the most part.

Not sure how good they are though. We all know what Parcells says, but I aint a buyer on this years squad yet.

They have 7 straight NFC games coming-up, that will tell the tale of 24 and Sam I Am.

StickierBuns · 47 minutes ago

Not sure what legit means in the context of wins and losses if you 'are what your record says you are'. Games to go to separate the men from the boys.

JR44 · 41 minutes ago

I think the 2022 team was a better team, while Sam has played well, Cousins was a much better QB that year. We also had a better running game with Cook and our #2 WR was much more productive and consistent, also we had a healthier version of TJ. The defenses were actually similar in personnel, but this defense has played better as a unit.

I do not think the quote above is fair regarding winning with "luck" as that team found ways to win games. This team finds ways to not lose games, 5 of the wins Giants, Jets, Titans, Jags and Colts. I like this team and they have been a great surprise to watch, but I believe the 2022 team would have beaten them.

MaroonBells · 38 minutes ago

(1 hour ago)purplefaithful Wrote: Yes, I think this is better than KOC's first team. Its because of BFlo for the most part.

Not sure how good they are though. We all know what Parcells says, but I aint a buyer on this years squad yet.

They have 7 straight NFC games coming-up, that will tell the tale of 24 and Sam I Am.

I think they are what they are this year. They're a clean 8-2. A very good team, certainly a playoff team, but probably not quite as good as the Lions. DVOA supports that: they've beaten good teams, they've beaten the teams they're supposed to beat and their only two losses were to good teams they took to the wire.

It's not a perfect team and they've been spotty at times. But so have the Lions. Lions have some massive blow outs on their resume, but Goff was bad against the Bucs in a loss earlier in the season and then again throwing 5 picks against the Texans. No doubt that is the team to beat though.