Quote: @pattersaur said:
@ mblack said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
When I look back to the draft I try to figure out why this guy turned out to be special compared to the rest of the QB class. When I have watched him in the pros it is easy to say accuracy and composure. But what really jumps out to me is how fast he is at processing. He goes through his reads rapidly and pulls the trigger as soon as he sees the receiver who is breaking open. He's better at this than a lot of veteran QB's.
I think forecasting a QB to go from College to PRo's just has a huge % of luck to it...
How many "can't miss" prospects are in the garbage heap of mediocre or they just sucked?
Oh well, nothing new here. Most of us know this is to be the case, and if you're the Vikings? You still need to take an at bat for one.
That's the thing about the Vikings. They haven't been very willing to take a swing at a top rated QB in the draft. Some of it is because they haven't had a favorable draft position, and some because they haven't had very good results when they have drafted QB's. That goes back quite a ways.
Hopefully Kwesi won't be afraid to do what is necessary to go get the one they want.
The chance of finding a good one early in the draft is poor. But looking for an overlooked gem in the mid to later rounds is rare. Despite that, I would like them to keep trying, and they haven't seemed willing in the past.
I think its more of the bold. The misses made Rick scared of taking QBs. Mahomes, Rodgers heck even Love and Dak were all drafted out of the top 10. I tryly beleive its trusting your guy on your work.
It is like they are not sure about what they see and wouod rather be dipping their toes and pretend they are taking care of the QB position by drafting qbs in round 6+. That way when they bomb no one holds them accountable
It’s not just Rick. Most of this board is terrified of drafting QB early too. Love, Stroud, Lance, Hurts, Z Wilson… some good some some picked early some picked late. Drafting a bust at QB isn’t a death sentence like some make it out to be. And hitting on one is tenure defining for a coach and GM. Vikes need to try again this draft.
no one bitches when they draft bust after bust at DB year after year. It seems that never sets them back. When they drafted Ponder did it really set them back? Only in their own minds. Vikings also never set the bar high when they draft a qb. Since Culpepper its been all glorified game managers with so so arms.
Quote: @kmillard said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ mblack said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
When I look back to the draft I try to figure out why this guy turned out to be special compared to the rest of the QB class. When I have watched him in the pros it is easy to say accuracy and composure. But what really jumps out to me is how fast he is at processing. He goes through his reads rapidly and pulls the trigger as soon as he sees the receiver who is breaking open. He's better at this than a lot of veteran QB's.
I think forecasting a QB to go from College to PRo's just has a huge % of luck to it...
How many "can't miss" prospects are in the garbage heap of mediocre or they just sucked?
Oh well, nothing new here. Most of us know this is to be the case, and if you're the Vikings? You still need to take an at bat for one.
That's the thing about the Vikings. They haven't been very willing to take a swing at a top rated QB in the draft. Some of it is because they haven't had a favorable draft position, and some because they haven't had very good results when they have drafted QB's. That goes back quite a ways.
Hopefully Kwesi won't be afraid to do what is necessary to go get the one they want.
The chance of finding a good one early in the draft is poor. But looking for an overlooked gem in the mid to later rounds is rare. Despite that, I would like them to keep trying, and they haven't seemed willing in the past.
I think its more of the bold. The misses made Rick scared of taking QBs. Mahomes, Rodgers heck even Love and Dak were all drafted out of the top 10. I tryly beleive its trusting your guy on your work.
It is like they are not sure about what they see and wouod rather be dipping their toes and pretend they are taking care of the QB position by drafting qbs in round 6+. That way when they bomb no one holds them accountable
It’s not just Rick. Most of this board is terrified of drafting QB early too. Love, Stroud, Lance, Hurts, Z Wilson… some good some some picked early some picked late. Drafting a bust at QB isn’t a death sentence like some make it out to be. And hitting on one is tenure defining for a coach and GM. Vikes need to try again this draft.
no one bitches when they draft bust after bust at DB year after year. It seems that never sets them back. When they drafted Ponder did it really set them back? Only in their own minds. Vikings also never set the bar high when they draft a qb. Since Culpepper its been all glorified game managers with so so arms.
99% of us fans absolutely knew, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Ponder was a terrible pick when it happened. And we were all correct. This is where and when GMs are going to take flak and lose jobs.
Quote: @FLVike said:
@ kmillard said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ mblack said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
When I look back to the draft I try to figure out why this guy turned out to be special compared to the rest of the QB class. When I have watched him in the pros it is easy to say accuracy and composure. But what really jumps out to me is how fast he is at processing. He goes through his reads rapidly and pulls the trigger as soon as he sees the receiver who is breaking open. He's better at this than a lot of veteran QB's.
I think forecasting a QB to go from College to PRo's just has a huge % of luck to it...
How many "can't miss" prospects are in the garbage heap of mediocre or they just sucked?
Oh well, nothing new here. Most of us know this is to be the case, and if you're the Vikings? You still need to take an at bat for one.
That's the thing about the Vikings. They haven't been very willing to take a swing at a top rated QB in the draft. Some of it is because they haven't had a favorable draft position, and some because they haven't had very good results when they have drafted QB's. That goes back quite a ways.
Hopefully Kwesi won't be afraid to do what is necessary to go get the one they want.
The chance of finding a good one early in the draft is poor. But looking for an overlooked gem in the mid to later rounds is rare. Despite that, I would like them to keep trying, and they haven't seemed willing in the past.
I think its more of the bold. The misses made Rick scared of taking QBs. Mahomes, Rodgers heck even Love and Dak were all drafted out of the top 10. I tryly beleive its trusting your guy on your work.
It is like they are not sure about what they see and wouod rather be dipping their toes and pretend they are taking care of the QB position by drafting qbs in round 6+. That way when they bomb no one holds them accountable
It’s not just Rick. Most of this board is terrified of drafting QB early too. Love, Stroud, Lance, Hurts, Z Wilson… some good some some picked early some picked late. Drafting a bust at QB isn’t a death sentence like some make it out to be. And hitting on one is tenure defining for a coach and GM. Vikes need to try again this draft.
no one bitches when they draft bust after bust at DB year after year. It seems that never sets them back. When they drafted Ponder did it really set them back? Only in their own minds. Vikings also never set the bar high when they draft a qb. Since Culpepper its been all glorified game managers with so so arms.
99% of us fans absolutely knew, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Ponder was a terrible pick when it happened. And we were all correct. This is where and when GMs are going to take flak and lose jobs.
true, but why be afraid to draft another one just because someone fucked up?
Quote: @kmillard said:
@ FLVike said:
@ kmillard said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ mblack said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
When I look back to the draft I try to figure out why this guy turned out to be special compared to the rest of the QB class. When I have watched him in the pros it is easy to say accuracy and composure. But what really jumps out to me is how fast he is at processing. He goes through his reads rapidly and pulls the trigger as soon as he sees the receiver who is breaking open. He's better at this than a lot of veteran QB's.
I think forecasting a QB to go from College to PRo's just has a huge % of luck to it...
How many "can't miss" prospects are in the garbage heap of mediocre or they just sucked?
Oh well, nothing new here. Most of us know this is to be the case, and if you're the Vikings? You still need to take an at bat for one.
That's the thing about the Vikings. They haven't been very willing to take a swing at a top rated QB in the draft. Some of it is because they haven't had a favorable draft position, and some because they haven't had very good results when they have drafted QB's. That goes back quite a ways.
Hopefully Kwesi won't be afraid to do what is necessary to go get the one they want.
The chance of finding a good one early in the draft is poor. But looking for an overlooked gem in the mid to later rounds is rare. Despite that, I would like them to keep trying, and they haven't seemed willing in the past.
I think its more of the bold. The misses made Rick scared of taking QBs. Mahomes, Rodgers heck even Love and Dak were all drafted out of the top 10. I tryly beleive its trusting your guy on your work.
It is like they are not sure about what they see and wouod rather be dipping their toes and pretend they are taking care of the QB position by drafting qbs in round 6+. That way when they bomb no one holds them accountable
It’s not just Rick. Most of this board is terrified of drafting QB early too. Love, Stroud, Lance, Hurts, Z Wilson… some good some some picked early some picked late. Drafting a bust at QB isn’t a death sentence like some make it out to be. And hitting on one is tenure defining for a coach and GM. Vikes need to try again this draft.
no one bitches when they draft bust after bust at DB year after year. It seems that never sets them back. When they drafted Ponder did it really set them back? Only in their own minds. Vikings also never set the bar high when they draft a qb. Since Culpepper its been all glorified game managers with so so arms.
99% of us fans absolutely knew, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Ponder was a terrible pick when it happened. And we were all correct. This is where and when GMs are going to take flak and lose jobs.
true, but why be afraid to draft another one just because someone fucked up?
I'm not, look up 3 post and see what I said
Quote: @FLVike said:
@ kmillard said:
@ FLVike said:
@ kmillard said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ mblack said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ jargomcfargo said:
When I look back to the draft I try to figure out why this guy turned out to be special compared to the rest of the QB class. When I have watched him in the pros it is easy to say accuracy and composure. But what really jumps out to me is how fast he is at processing. He goes through his reads rapidly and pulls the trigger as soon as he sees the receiver who is breaking open. He's better at this than a lot of veteran QB's.
I think forecasting a QB to go from College to PRo's just has a huge % of luck to it...
How many "can't miss" prospects are in the garbage heap of mediocre or they just sucked?
Oh well, nothing new here. Most of us know this is to be the case, and if you're the Vikings? You still need to take an at bat for one.
That's the thing about the Vikings. They haven't been very willing to take a swing at a top rated QB in the draft. Some of it is because they haven't had a favorable draft position, and some because they haven't had very good results when they have drafted QB's. That goes back quite a ways.
Hopefully Kwesi won't be afraid to do what is necessary to go get the one they want.
The chance of finding a good one early in the draft is poor. But looking for an overlooked gem in the mid to later rounds is rare. Despite that, I would like them to keep trying, and they haven't seemed willing in the past.
I think its more of the bold. The misses made Rick scared of taking QBs. Mahomes, Rodgers heck even Love and Dak were all drafted out of the top 10. I tryly beleive its trusting your guy on your work.
It is like they are not sure about what they see and wouod rather be dipping their toes and pretend they are taking care of the QB position by drafting qbs in round 6+. That way when they bomb no one holds them accountable
It’s not just Rick. Most of this board is terrified of drafting QB early too. Love, Stroud, Lance, Hurts, Z Wilson… some good some some picked early some picked late. Drafting a bust at QB isn’t a death sentence like some make it out to be. And hitting on one is tenure defining for a coach and GM. Vikes need to try again this draft.
no one bitches when they draft bust after bust at DB year after year. It seems that never sets them back. When they drafted Ponder did it really set them back? Only in their own minds. Vikings also never set the bar high when they draft a qb. Since Culpepper its been all glorified game managers with so so arms.
99% of us fans absolutely knew, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Ponder was a terrible pick when it happened. And we were all correct. This is where and when GMs are going to take flak and lose jobs.
true, but why be afraid to draft another one just because someone fucked up?
I'm not, look up 3 post and see what I said
I am not saying you per se, just in general the team, risk adverse fans etc.
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