In addition to the lack of a running attack in this game, these are the other big issues I have with KOC:
1) We have no short passing game: Our route trees mainly focus on intermediate to long designs that require the QB to hold onto the ball for way too long. I think Oliver, Mundt, Ham, and Chandler should all be featured more in the short passing game especially when they are stopping our rushing attack. Some easy 5 yard completions control time of possession and keep the chains moving. Also, it takes some of the gunslinging mistakes out of Mullens hands which he is prone to do.
2) He's still calling plays as if Cousins is behind center. I've said it before. It's starting to look like Cousins is the guy that has been making KOC's offense look good and not the other way around. Mullens has a limited skill set. So does Dobbs. Call plays that don't ask them to be more than they can be.
3) After he burns through his scripted plays and has to make play calls on the fly, he struggles. Not sure what can be done to get him to improve in this area, but this offense always seems to stall for big stretches of games after we look effective in our opening drives.
Quote: @TBro said:
In addition to the lack of a running attack in this game, these are the other big issues I have with KOC:
1) We have no short passing game: Our route trees mainly focus on intermediate to long designs that require the QB to hold onto the ball for way too long. I think Oliver, Mundt, Ham, and Chandler should all be featured more in the short passing game especially when they are stopping our rushing attack. Some easy 5 yard completions control time of possession and keep the chains moving. Also, it takes some of the gunslinging mistakes out of Mullens hands which he is prone to do.
2) He's still calling plays as if Cousins is behind center. I've said it before. It's starting to look like Cousins is the guy that has been making KOC's offense look good and not the other way around. Mullens has a limited skill set. So does Dobbs. Call plays that don't ask them to be more than they can be.
3) After he burns through his scripted plays and has to make play calls on the fly, he struggles. Not sure what can be done to get him to improve in this area, but this offense always seems to stall for big stretches of games after we look effective in our opening drives.
We went from poorly designed & executed TE screens to no screen game at all.
Quote: @TBro said:
In addition to the lack of a running attack in this game, these are the other big issues I have with KOC:
1) We have no short passing game: Our route trees mainly focus on intermediate to long designs that require the QB to hold onto the ball for way too long. I think Oliver, Mundt, Ham, and Chandler should all be featured more in the short passing game especially when they are stopping our rushing attack. Some easy 5 yard completions control time of possession and keep the chains moving. Also, it takes some of the gunslinging mistakes out of Mullens hands which he is prone to do.
2) He's still calling plays as if Cousins is behind center. I've said it before. It's starting to look like Cousins is the guy that has been making KOC's offense look good and not the other way around. Mullens has a limited skill set. So does Dobbs. Call plays that don't ask them to be more than they can be.
3) After he burns through his scripted plays and has to make play calls on the fly, he struggles. Not sure what can be done to get him to improve in this area, but this offense always seems to stall for big stretches of games after we look effective in our opening drives.
I agree, particularly on #3. The scripted stuff is put together as a staff effort during the week. But once KOC is calling the game it becomes very hit or miss.
Vikings are reportedly taking a "long look" as to whether they should bench Mullens and start Jaren Hall.
Let me help you out, the answer is YES, you dumb asses, yes!!!!
Quote: @comet52 said:
@ TBro said:
In addition to the lack of a running attack in this game, these are the other big issues I have with KOC:
1) We have no short passing game: Our route trees mainly focus on intermediate to long designs that require the QB to hold onto the ball for way too long. I think Oliver, Mundt, Ham, and Chandler should all be featured more in the short passing game especially when they are stopping our rushing attack. Some easy 5 yard completions control time of possession and keep the chains moving. Also, it takes some of the gunslinging mistakes out of Mullens hands which he is prone to do.
2) He's still calling plays as if Cousins is behind center. I've said it before. It's starting to look like Cousins is the guy that has been making KOC's offense look good and not the other way around. Mullens has a limited skill set. So does Dobbs. Call plays that don't ask them to be more than they can be.
3) After he burns through his scripted plays and has to make play calls on the fly, he struggles. Not sure what can be done to get him to improve in this area, but this offense always seems to stall for big stretches of games after we look effective in our opening drives.
I agree, particularly on #3. The scripted stuff is put together as a staff effort during the week. But once KOC is calling the game it becomes very hit or miss.
This is a good observation and certainly something KOC has struggled with. He's the anti Zimmer, who's defenses would routinely give up points early only to settle in as Zimm figured out what the offense was doing and made adjustments. We make no adjustments on offense and keep running the same thing under KOC.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
I'd roll with Hall at this point...See if he can show anything, maybe spark whats left of the offense.
Secretly I'm wishing for 7/10 at this point - Ive suffered in 23 and wants me some draft kiss on my owie.
Agree. Addison is out, O’Neill is out, Murphy is out. Wonnum and Hockenson are out for the year with major injuries. Techinically, we might still be in contention, but this team is done. Time to see what we have in the kid.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
In short, it's Hall time
It was Hall time three weeks ago
Yep, hope springs eternal for this week.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
I'd roll with Hall at this point...See if he can show anything, maybe spark whats left of the offense.
Secretly I'm wishing for 7/10 at this point - Ive suffered in 23 and wants me some draft kiss on my owie.
Agree. Addison is out, O’Neill is out, Murphy is out. Wonnum and Hockenson are out for the year with major injuries. Techinically, we might still be in contention, but this team is done. Time to see what we have in the kid.
Just one factor left. Is there a decent to good chance playing him now would be bad for his development? Pretty much the only reason not to play him.
I'm just over Nick Jameis Mullens. Watching that wounded duck floating out there and not reaching Jefferson was awful. It is absolutely putrid how he does those stupid throws to nowhere on the ground
Quote: @Bullazin said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
I'd roll with Hall at this point...See if he can show anything, maybe spark whats left of the offense.
Secretly I'm wishing for 7/10 at this point - Ive suffered in 23 and wants me some draft kiss on my owie.
Agree. Addison is out, O’Neill is out, Murphy is out. Wonnum and Hockenson are out for the year with major injuries. Techinically, we might still be in contention, but this team is done. Time to see what we have in the kid.
Just one factor left. Is there a decent to good chance playing him now would be bad for his development? Pretty much the only reason not to play him.
That thought did enter my mind, especially down Addison and Hockenson, but I think the biggest culprit in forcing a young QB into bad habits and stunting his development is poor pass protection, and the OL is playing fairly well.
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