Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ Wetlander said:
I think we need a little perspective here... last off-season the narrative was Osborn was in danger of being cut after an unproductive rookie year. Now after having a strong 2nd year, he's not that good because he's not a "#2 WR"...
Crazy how fan expectations change so quickly lol
Nah, I don't think there were expectations for Osborn really. I personally think he hit his ceiling last year. I like him very much as a #3 WR, better than Bisi.
But I don't see anything more for him. I actually wish the #3 offered something different: height, speed, etc. That ain't Osborn.
I was speaking more to fans thinking we need to find someone better than him now because he isn't as good as Thielen or Jefferson...
Like I get it, Thielen has gotten dinged the past two seasons, but so did Diggs when he was here and he is younger than Thielen. Would it be awesome to have 3 stud WRs on the field at once? You bet. But let's not crap on what we have right now... and that is a superstar in Jefferson and a 1b in Thielen... and a strong #3 WR in Osborn with some intriguing depth behind them (ISM, Bisi, and Nailor).
Look around the league and you'd be hard pressed to find a better trio than Jefferson, Thielen, and KJ.
I like our WR room as is. I think we needed D and we focused on that at top of draft.
Might be interesting to see what KJ did as the #2 on Thielens injury games last year. May settle the argument about KJ, at least coming into this year.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
I think we need a little perspective here... last off-season the narrative was Osborn was in danger of being cut after an unproductive rookie year. Now after having a strong 2nd year, he's not that good because he's not a "#2 WR"...
Crazy how fan expectations change so quickly lol
Who says he's not that good? I just dont know that his production with AT and JJ is an indicator of him actually being a legit #2 guy. He would rarely draw a teams top 1 or 2 corners and likely faced a DB on somewhat of an island as the safeties and LBs are a little preoccupied most snaps with AT,JJ, and Cook.
I think my perspective is fine, he did what he had to do last year to be having a conversation about his future, but I think there are two many unknowns to be penciled in as ATs replacement until he gets a chance to show he's more than just a #3. At ATs age, odds a pretty good he will have a few games this year to do just that. If he shines, great, if he disappears, then we put WR towards the top of our 23 draft board or FA wish list depending on how Cousins plays this year.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Wetlander said:
I think we need a little perspective here... last off-season the narrative was Osborn was in danger of being cut after an unproductive rookie year. Now after having a strong 2nd year, he's not that good because he's not a "#2 WR"...
Crazy how fan expectations change so quickly lol
Who says he's not that good? I just dont know that his production with AT and JJ is an indicator of him actually being a legit #2 guy. He would rarely draw a teams top 1 or 2 corners and likely faced a DB on somewhat of an island as the safeties and LBs are a little preoccupied most snaps with AT,JJ, and Cook.
I think my perspective is fine, he did what he had to do last year to be having a conversation about his future, but I think there are two many unknowns to be penciled in as ATs replacement until he gets a chance to show he's more than just a #3. At ATs age, odds a pretty good he will have a few games this year to do just that. If he shines, great, if he disappears, then we put WR towards the top of our 23 draft board or FA wish list depending on how Cousins plays this year.
Definitely won't be a free agent with JJ's contract looming, but I think unless KJO, ISM, Bisi or Nailor explodes this year, WR will be one of the first two picks in the '23 draft.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Wetlander said:
I think we need a little perspective here... last off-season the narrative was Osborn was in danger of being cut after an unproductive rookie year. Now after having a strong 2nd year, he's not that good because he's not a "#2 WR"...
Crazy how fan expectations change so quickly lol
Who says he's not that good? I just dont know that his production with AT and JJ is an indicator of him actually being a legit #2 guy. He would rarely draw a teams top 1 or 2 corners and likely faced a DB on somewhat of an island as the safeties and LBs are a little preoccupied most snaps with AT,JJ, and Cook.
I think my perspective is fine, he did what he had to do last year to be having a conversation about his future, but I think there are two many unknowns to be penciled in as ATs replacement until he gets a chance to show he's more than just a #3. At ATs age, odds a pretty good he will have a few games this year to do just that. If he shines, great, if he disappears, then we put WR towards the top of our 23 draft board or FA wish list depending on how Cousins plays this year.
Definitely won't be a free agent with JJ's contract looming, but I think unless KJO, ISM, Bisi or Nailor explodes this year, WR will be one of the first two picks in the '23 draft.
I included FA assuming that Cousins balls out and the team decides to make one all in push with Cousins, AT, JJ (last year of comparatively "cheap" play ), if KC falters then I assume we need to look at QB at the top of the 23 board, and that may require all of our picks in day 1 and 2 next spring, plus future considerations.... and I still think we would be needing to look at WR as a top concern if at all possible, of course we will still be needing to look DB with Harry likely moving on as well as PP.
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