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RE: ICE SHOOTING - VikingOracle - 01-09-2026 (01-09-2026, 04:55 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: I dont know enough about the first one to have an educated opinion, I will say I wouldnt be surprised if the pay out isnt necessarily a matter of guilt, it may very well be the legal recommendation. a jury in that area could very easily make a much larger award. I have seen many cases where the victim was very much responsible for their own misfortune and ended up getting paid. I dont know the circumstances around the shooting so I wont say one way or the other. I do know that with as many FBI agents that have been tied to that event, and the evidence of the FBI encouraging and promoting illegal activities, coupled with all the half truths and lies that have come out about the events of Jan 6th.... I dont know that I would believe what I find on it if I did go digging. Yes, but do you believe she "ran over" the ICE agent and it is hard to believe that he is alive? Not asking whether the woman is innocent -- asking whether the administation's initial statements are supported by the facts in your opinion. BTW, many of the insurrectionist are now seeking compensation for the time they spent in jail -- would you support that? RE: ICE SHOOTING - purplefaithful - 01-09-2026 (01-09-2026, 05:13 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: you know what would have prevented all of this... if people and the media would just cut the bull shit and let these people do their jobs, if you dont like their job then change the laws that they are paid to enforce. its the anti govt rhetoric because they dont like the team that won that is creating these incidents by emboldening and enraging the minions. It's lack of trust regarding the overall "what" "why" and "how." ICE integrity; the belief (rightly or wrongly) that they are going after more than hardened criminals. Lack of trust with Feds and Maga politicians and that this surge on MN is fueled by blatant racism, a broader assault against Blue states and a personal vendetta against Walz/Omar. I am not aligned with Omar or the radical Mpls council myself. Its just the same as if Biden or Obama were Potus - or George Bush. Just the other side would be the ones doing the mistrusting. All I can do as a lawful citizen is use my voting rights next time I get the chance, which will be the Governor election in MN and mid-terms. I'm going to go pet my Lab now for a while and get some oxytocin pumping around. RE: ICE SHOOTING - JimmyinSD - 01-09-2026 (01-09-2026, 05:42 PM)VikingOracle Wrote: Yes, but do you believe she "ran over" the ICE agent and it is hard to believe that he is alive? Not asking whether the woman is innocent -- asking whether the administation's initial statements are supported by the facts in your opinion. I think he exaggerated yes, do I think the agent was concerned for his life and reacted as trained, yes. As far as compensation, I think it depends on the individuals. I think I've read about plenty that were unjustly held and should be compensated, others not likely so much. RE: ICE SHOOTING - savannahskol - 01-10-2026 (01-09-2026, 03:14 PM)savannahskol Wrote: New vid post from ICE body cam released: After watching the video I linked above from the ICE officer chest, CNN's chief law enforcement analyst has opined the shooting was justified. On Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Story Is,” CNN Law Enforcement Contributor Steve Moore stated that the new video of the shooting by ICE in Minneapolis “leads me to believe that this was likely a legally justified shooting” and while he wasn’t ready to say whether or not the shooting was a justified shooting before the video, he now believes “a reasonable investigation will find that the officer was within the deadly force policy.” Moore said, “Up until this point, I wasn’t absolutely ready to come out and say that this, in my opinion, was probably a good shoot or not a good shoot. There was so much out there, and you just couldn’t tell. This one leads me to believe that this was likely a legally justified shooting.” He added, “Legally justified means that a reasonable law enforcement officer — not a reasonable person on the street — but a trained law enforcement officer, believed that they were in imminent danger of losing their life or suffering grievous bodily injuries. It doesn’t have to be lethal force if it paralyzes you. That’s the type of thing. So, I believe, at that point, the officer was likely — and a reasonable investigation will find that the officer was within the deadly force policy.” RE: ICE SHOOTING - purplefaithful - 01-10-2026 The Mpls Star had a pretty good break down too. Is there any point debating warranted shooting or not at this point? Imo that boat has sailed and it sailed the day it happened. I dont want to drag this out any longer than it has to for the people of this state. Many want ice to leave, no more people need to die, no more racist chants need to be raged from the White House. It was inevitable that someone in our state was going to die during this surge imo. Sure wish I would have been wrong on that one. RE: ICE SHOOTING - JimmyinSD - 01-10-2026 (01-10-2026, 02:40 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: The Mpls Star had a pretty good break down too. If MN had followed the laws of the land instead of the wishes of party leadership...this doesnt happen, if the media reports the news instead of inciting illegal actions against law officers this doesnt happen, if MN had directed their law enforcement officers to assist the federal agencies by clearing the way for the feds to make their arrests and not allowing the manipulated populace put themselves in harms way... those kids still have their mom tonight. This isn't about the current white house occupants, this was set in motion before Trump and was set in stone by democrats brainwashing rhetoric and unwillingness to enforce US laws. If this was yet again another example of an illegal killing a US citizen....it barely makes the local news, there's no political gain in that story. Its only a story because of the potential political value....which is the real tragedy. RE: ICE SHOOTING - purplefaithful - 01-11-2026 (01-10-2026, 07:16 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: If MN had followed the laws of the land instead of the wishes of party leadership...this doesnt happen, if the media reports the news instead of inciting illegal actions against law officers this doesnt happen, if MN had directed their law enforcement officers to assist the federal agencies by clearing the way for the feds to make their arrests and not allowing the manipulated populace put themselves in harms way... those kids still have their mom tonight. This isn't about the current white house occupants, this was set in motion before Trump and was set in stone by democrats brainwashing rhetoric and unwillingness to enforce US laws. We're on different planets on this one my friend...We'll just have to agree to disagree. Sadly, whats getting lost in all of this is the intersection where we do agree; removing criminals from our streets. Like I said earlier, the problem for many is how (and why) the Feds are going about it. This looks, feels and smells like a federal political assault against a blue state in our union and a personal vendetta against Walz. It's a campaign who's intent has transcended the reason ICE exists. Getting criminal illegal immigrants out of the US. There aren't many here who believe it is only hardened criminals being put behind bars. Families who are good citizens are getting torn apart. And where was the conservative pushback on Potus when he was blatantly going after an entire ethnic group in the US? The silence has been deafening. In the interim, I hope nobody else gets hurt or loses their life. So proud of the resilience, love/community from the peeps here in Minny.. Many, many "ice out for good" rallies yesterday and more across the state today. Lawful and peaceful rallies, from Mpls through the suburbs and out to the sticks of Wabasha and more...We're all counting the days till Trump ends the fed political assault and Ice leaves us alone. RE: ICE SHOOTING - JimmyinSD - 01-11-2026 (01-11-2026, 10:30 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: We're on different planets on this one my friend...We'll just have to agree to disagree. Why is it a political move agaisnt walz? Thats weak, they were hitting SD long before MN, was that political as well? Come on man, change the channel. RE: ICE SHOOTING - purplefaithful - 01-11-2026 (01-11-2026, 11:20 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: Why is it a political move agaisnt walz? Thats weak, they were hitting SD long before MN, was that political as well? Come on man, change the channel. I'm glad you mention that, it does make me feel a little better about the situation. That said, I think there is a big stripe of personal vendetta in this. There is no love lost between Trump/Noem or our current Gov. I'm going to tap-out of for the time being and enjoy Sunday. I hope u do the same! RE: ICE SHOOTING - Waterboy - 01-12-2026 (01-11-2026, 11:30 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: I'm glad you mention that, it does make me feel a little better about the situation. That said, I think there is a big stripe of personal vendetta in this. There is no love lost between Trump/Noem or our current Gov. You're not really acknowledging that we're a year into Trump's administration and Minneapolis in addition to being a sanctuary city is also home to rampant fraud that coincides with illegals dotting the landscape. MN has NOT acted in good faith with ICE in either arresting or giving information to the Feds about their "worst". They defend the worst the same as they defend people who came in peace. That puts the onus on ICE to take more radical measures. Of all the arguments that piss me off with the left, it's the 'you're supposed to arrest the bad guys first'. Well, help them do so. You're not doing it today; you're interfering with it at every turn and no matter what the circumstance. I think it's a stretch to say this is political retaliation when we've already seen rampant action in DC, LA, Memphis, Chicago, and Portland. He's going where there are big problems either with crime or in general law and order. Now you're stamping out the biggest known area of fraud in all of the states and it's interconnected with quid pro quo Democrats. That's on Tampon, not on Trump. |