This coming week might be the most consequential in recent memory
Let me start by saying I feel there is a very high probability Wentz starts this week. The “hamstring injury” is just far too convenient. I also don’t think they want to expose Kyler to what will probably be a very hostile home crowd at US Bank.
That being said, I think KOC knows what he has in Wentz and he knows he can’t win with him long-term. That’s why the move hasn’t been made to bench Kyler for him yet. I think Kyler has a very fragile ego and the second you bench him, he’s useless to you the rest of the season.
Now… let’s say Wentz wins and the offense looks respectable: I think the team will be in a position that they have to ride the hot hand, so to say, and just see where it takes them.
So what if Wentz isn’t great and they lose??? I think this is where you’re going to see how in lockstep KOC and Teasley are. KOC would, most likely, want the front office to make a move with his ass in the hot seat. Teasley, on the other hand, just got this job. He’s not beholden to the coach or any of the players or any decisions that have been made up to this point other than the McCarthy trade.
By standing pat and doing nothing, he could force O’Connell to lie in the bed that he made. Making it easier to rebuild this team from the ground up starting next year.
Or…
He could try to make a move at Kevin’s request an attempt to save this season and in essence Kevin’s job.
I’m not saying at all that I know the direction this whole thing will go, but the next 7 to 10 days are gonna be very telling for the future of the Minnesota Vikings.
well, that JJM trade that does have his finger prints on it is pretty damning right now, he sold our back up plan for Murray for peanuts, he had to know that Murray wasnt performing as advertised and went along with the trade anyway, so I think he needs to carry a lot of the blame for the fiasco that we are in.
in hind sight I think it safe to say that those reports back from training camp of neither guy seperating themselves were likely accurate, I do question the reports that Murray went lights out after he was named starter and I am more inclined to think that the primary driver for trading JJM was to try and make km comfortable ( FAIL!!!) and to alleviate the calls for JJM when km stumbles. right now I think Teasley and KOC both have a shit ton of egg on their face.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
It was never a QB competition, although McCarthy thought it was. The whole thing got shut down pretty quick and obviously they embellished Murray’s abilities during camp. JJ might get the last laugh when it’s all said and done.
StickierBuns wrote:
It was never a QB competition, although McCarthy thought it was. The whole thing got shut down pretty quick and obviously they embellished Murray’s abilities during camp. JJ might get the last laugh when it’s all said and done.
Murray got his way when he made the comments to the media about him not getting all the first team reps on the reason why he was struggling. I just want to fix our situation. JJM isn't an option, which it should be.
StickierBuns wrote:
It was never a QB competition, although McCarthy thought it was. The whole thing got shut down pretty quick and obviously they embellished Murray’s abilities during camp. JJ might get the last laugh when it’s all said and done.
the last laugh would be him coming back to MN as a free agent under a different HC. that would be the tobasco to the eye ball.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
CFIAvike wrote:
Let me start by saying I feel there is a very high probability Wentz starts this week. The “hamstring injury” is just far too convenient. I also don’t think they want to expose Kyler to what will probably be a very hostile home crowd at US Bank. That being said, I think KOC knows what he has in Wentz and he knows he can’t win with him long-term. That’s why the move hasn’t been made to bench Kyler for him yet. I think Kyler has a very fragile ego and the second you bench him, he’s useless to you the rest of the season. Now… let’s say Wentz wins and the offense looks respectable: I think the team will be in a position that they have to ride the hot hand, so to say, and just see where it takes them. So what if Wentz isn’t great and they lose??? I think this is where you’re going to see how in lockstep KOC and Teasley are. KOC would, most likely, want the front office to make a move with his ass in the hot seat. Teasley, on the other hand, just got this job. He’s not beholden to the coach or any of the players or any decisions that have been made up to this point other than the McCarthy trade. By standing pat and doing nothing, he could force O’Connell to lie in the bed that he made. Making it easier to rebuild this team from the ground up starting next year. Or…He could try to make a move at Kevin’s request an attempt to save this season and in essence Kevin’s job. I’m not saying at all that I know the direction this whole thing will go, but the next 7 to 10 days are gonna be very telling for the future of the Minnesota Vikings.
It’s what the Wilf’s want.
Listen, it isn't even really about O'Connell's job any more. You have a Super Bowl ready defense. That doesn't come around very often. There are no guarantees you will ever have it again. Are you going to piss it away based on some other reason then football? To me you bring in whatever you have to bring in now. Now I am not selling a 1st round pick for Cousins, but if it's a 4th, you do it. Whether it saves O'Connell's job or not.
This ho-hum mentality of "Maybe" it will get better should be over. Murray is not the answer, Wince isn't the answer either. There have been more then ample opportunities for it to be proven otherwise. What does a "turn around" of his offense even look like any more? From 31st to 27th in rankings? That's a setup to get ran in the 1st round of the playoffs.
No pussy footing around, as my dad used to say "Sh** or get off the pot." Maybe still Cousins isn't the answer either, but it seems Flores is pushing the issue where you have to take a shot.
Mid-season trades for starting quarterbacks in the NFL are extremely rare, with the most prominent examples occurring when teams suffered major injuries or lost starters:
October 31, 2023 (Joshua Dobbs): The Minnesota Vikings traded a 2024 sixth-round pick to the Arizona Cardinals (along with a seventh-round pick exchange) for quarterback Josh Dobbs right at the trade deadline. The move was triggered after Vikings starting quarterback Kirk Cousins suffered a season-ending torn Achilles tendon in Week 8. Dobbs had started the first eight games of the season for Arizona before being dealt.
October 18, 2011 (Carson Palmer): The Oakland Raiders acquired veteran Carson Palmer from the Cincinnati Bengals mid-season after Raiders starter Jason Campbell broke his collarbone. Cincinnatitraded Palmer (who had been holding out/threatening retirement) in exchange for a 2012 first-round pick and a 2013 second-round pick.
October 31, 2017 (Jimmy Garoppolo): The San Francisco 49ers traded a second-round draft pick to the New England Patriots for Jimmy Garoppolo. While Garoppolo took over as the starter later that season and went undefeated, he was serving as Tom Brady's backup in New England at the time of the trade rather than an active starter.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
Vikesrock wrote:
Listen, it isn't even really about O'Connell's job any more. You have a Super Bowl ready defense. That doesn't come around very often. There are no guarantees you will ever have it again. Are you going to piss it away based on some other reason then football? To me you bring in whatever you have to bring in now. Now I am not selling a 1st round pick for Cousins, but if it's a 4th, you do it. Whether it saves O'Connell's job or not.
This ho-hum mentality of "Maybe" it will get better should be over. Murray is not the answer, Wince isn't the answer either. There have been more then ample opportunities for it to be proven otherwise. What does a "turn around" of his offense even look like any more? From 31st to 27th in rankings? That's a setup to get ran in the 1st round of the playoffs.
No pussy footing around, as my dad used to say "Sh** or get off the pot." Maybe still Cousins isn't the answer either, but it seems Flores is pushing the issue where you have to take a shot.
I’m open to 2x second round picks. Let’s get it done.
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