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StickierBuns wrote:

No doubt he'll compete hard, but if he's not QB1, he'll be off this team next year. He'll push for it. I think he thought this was a partnership and KOC would work toward his development, but he's seeing the business side of the game and a slap in the face indeed after only 10 games started.
KOC puts himself in this corner: its Murray or bust. And he's lost the loyalty of a kid who'd have died on the field for him. Sad really. I'd hate to see JJ jam it in Minnesota's face on another team.
As far as Murray is concerned, he seems genuinely excited about the opportunity. Glad to be here. Seems to mean what he's saying, loves KOC. 👍 I've got nothing against the guy. Have to hope he rocks it at this point.

Watching that interview was difficult. JJ is projecting ultra competitive “9”/scorned lover vibes. It doesn’t surprise I guess. Murray rubbing salt in it saying he’ll teach JJ best he knows lol.

I say good, let the best man win.

I do not see it as a slap in the face or any kind of sign of disrespect or not showing loyalty. This team is a business and their product is to put a winning football team on the field. Aside from JJM's performance, which has not been what they expected, he has not shown he can stay on the football field. Not only did he miss his first year, but last year he was injured twice. I am not sure what other choice the team had than to bring in someone else who could potentially step in and start. Getting Murray was not something that was planned and just a really unusual opportunity that does not come up often and just something that was too good to pass up from a player and especially a money perspective. More likely, we would have seen someone like Will Levis or Anthony Richardson brought in and JJM would have been the likely leader to start. Murray is only here on a 1 year contract, JJM is going to get a lot of reps in preseason, something he really should have gotten last year and ample opportunities to show he is still the future of the team.

I think the difference in experience is evident in their different answers. But I do think people are overreacting to JJ's response.

MaroonBells wrote:

I think the difference in experience is evident in their different answers. But I do think people are overreacting to JJ's response.

Maybe it’s a more professional persona he’s created. 9 to 5?

MaroonBells wrote:

I think the difference in experience is evident in their different answers. But I do think people are overreacting to JJ's response.

Things can be looked at a number of ways in an interview and taken out of context, easy to see something that may not be there. His opening statements obviously a sign of disappointment, however there was really no excuse for the comment about Murray just being some other guy sitting in a room with him like when he was in school. That is your teammate and a veteran and he deserves more respect than that. One of the concerns with him last year was an unexpected lack of maturity and he did not show improvement there.

As someone who wants nothing more for the Vikes than McCarthy to be our QB and does think he's been handed a raw deal by the org, I LOVE that he feels this way... But I kinda hate that he talked about it publicly.

It's Day 1 and he's there to compete but kid you've had 3 months to digest the Kyler news and situation. More than enough time for JJM to craft his own narrative and maybe win over some media members in the process of giving comments yesterday. Instead, he had a lame high school classroom analogy and some saltiness. Weak tbh. I wish he could link up with the Manning Factory or another equivalent. Their PR operation is unmatched.

Tom Brady had some of this salty edge to him back in the day before he was a "made guy" so yes it can all work out fine but in a vacuum, for a QB with "maturity concerns", he frankly sounded immature.

StickierBuns wrote:

No doubt he'll compete hard, but if he's not QB1, he'll be off this team next year. He'll push for it. I think he thought this was a partnership and KOC would work toward his development, but he's seeing the business side of the game and a slap in the face indeed after only 10 games started.
KOC puts himself in this corner: its Murray or bust. And he's lost the loyalty of a kid who'd have died on the field for him. Sad really. I'd hate to see JJ jam it in Minnesota's face on another team.
As far as Murray is concerned, he seems genuinely excited about the opportunity. Glad to be here. Seems to mean what he's saying, loves KOC. 👍 I've got nothing against the guy. Have to hope he rocks it at this point.

Agreed and I do think he'll jam it in Minnesota's face eventually. I feel like I'm slowly marching towards this inevitable outcome. At least you and a few others are marching with me ha.

JustInTime wrote:

https://twitter.com/seifertespn/status/2059717817448984826Schism

I was really trying ot resist digging that term up, again....

As for the kid's word salad...eh...to me, it shows a VERY clumsy combination of youth, competitiveness, "safe" response, and a heaping helping of KOC's "don't quite say anything".

At 23, he hasn't figured out the mix, yet. What actually matters is that his mechanics are apparently on a solid upswing and he could have big results from a series of some improvements. One more win last season, and we'd have made the playoffs....and the kid's later games were huge improvements over the early ones. I think the mindset that his season was just trash is...borderline fiction.

Kyler...I can't get past the very ugly impression I got of him in Arizona. He has his own considerable injury history, some work ethic issues that may or may not be overblown, and he's at least as bad at getting deep into the playoffs as we've been, lately. He created some serious highlight reels, but was also nowhere to be seen in most postseasons. How much was him vs the team? Maybe we find out this season.

Whoever lines up under center in our games, gets my (very) vocal support. Here, now, in late May, my biases are what they are.

I didn’t really take it as JJM being pissed at the organization or pissed that there’s competition.  I took it as being annoyed by having to talk to the media jackals about something in which there’s no correct answer and no matter what you say it’s going to be twisted out of context.

If dude’s relaxed, everyone is going to say he doesn’t care.  If he says he cares, people are going to say he’s a softy.  If he comes in tough, people will say he wants out.  There’s no correct answer, because people will twist whatever comes out of his mouth to support what they already believe, and a sizeable chunk of people believe that 10 games of subpar performance with splashes of promise means that he’s just bad forever and there’s nothing he’ll be able to say that doesn’t get twisted.  The only way out of this is to play good on the field in a real game and that’s months away at least and probably longer if Kyler gets the starting gig.

Regardless, he just needs to focus on improving his game as quickly as possible.

If nothing else, his comments have generated a small cottage industry.

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StickierBuns wrote:

No doubt he'll compete hard, but if he's not QB1, he'll be off this team next year. He'll push for it. I think he thought this was a partnership and KOC would work toward his development, but he's seeing the business side of the game and a slap in the face indeed after only 10 games started.
KOC puts himself in this corner: its Murray or bust. And he's lost the loyalty of a kid who'd have died on the field for him. Sad really. I'd hate to see JJ jam it in Minnesota's face on another team.
As far as Murray is concerned, he seems genuinely excited about the opportunity. Glad to be here. Seems to mean what he's saying, loves KOC. 👍 I've got nothing against the guy. Have to hope he rocks it at this point.

Yes, for sure if the Vikings offer K1 a contract JJM's last chapters in MN will have been written.

I'm coming around to he's po'd and frustrated and I'm ok with that. I think if he had a do-over on some of his media responses from yesterday? He might take it...

Night and day difference in maturity between him and K1? Maybe.

He looks to be coming in to compete hard. Thats all fans can ask of him and he can ask of himself.

There is plenty of blame to go around for going into yr3 facing down this situation; himself, coaches decisions, injuries, K1 at a bargain, KAM forcing KOC to play the kid b4 he was ready etc..

That said, I think fans are going too dark too early on JJM as a Viking. I dont believe in me bonz he wont be here long-term. Not yet anyways

JustInTime wrote:

https://twitter.com/b_dinucci6/status/2059970237345542461If nothing else, his comments have generated a small cottage industry.

Just one day, but K1 is showing his maturity with the media and situation vs a 23 year old bristling at the mic's. I'm moving on to day 2 OTA's lol!

Oh the drama...

The NFL’s organized team activities normally bring as much excitement as leftover meatloaf. Up here in melting Minnesota, we have genuine intrigue. The Vikings are hosting a quarterback competition (wink, wink).

In one corner, a onetime franchise quarterback in a different NFL market is looking to revitalize his career. In the opposite corner, a first-round draft pick is looking to prove he can become a franchise quarterback.

In the middle stands a head coach trying to thread a needle in a rather delicate situation.

Kevin O’Connell often cautions reporters not to read into what takes place on the field during offseason practices. Good luck in this case.

Speaking of which, did anyone else notice the Vikings’ official account on the X platform posted a short highlight compilation of Kyler Murray’s first OTA practice on Tuesday but nothing of J.J. McCarthy?

Hmmmm.

Might mean nothing, but this becomes a game of connect-the-dots until O’Connell announces his starting quarterback, which presumably won’t happen until sometime in training camp.

Every rep, every pass, every step by both quarterbacks will be dissected and consumed as clues.

In his first public comments since Murray was signed, McCarthy told reporters Wednesday that he’s been reassured this will be legit competition, then offered up an interesting response when asked about his relationship with Murray.

“It’s just like two guys in a classroom,” he said. “He sits on one side, I sit on the other side, and it’s the coaches’ responsibility to teach us and coach us.”

That sounds awkward.

“It’s just like the same feeling when you’re in high school and there’s another person on the other side of the room,” McCarthy said. “That’s just kind of how it is. I wouldn’t say there’s any awkwardness.”

My belief remains that Murray will be the starting quarterback for the season opener Sept. 13 against the Packers. A quarterback with his résumé wouldn’t sign here without strong indication or assurance that he will be the guy.

Even so, O’Connell is smart in how he’s handling the situation publicly and perhaps even privately. Tactically, it serves no real purpose to name a starter in May, other than to avoid getting asked questions about the situation.

The NFL’s mantra is built on competition. No job or position is safe. OK, so Justin Jefferson doesn’t need to prove anything, but you get the idea.

O’Connell wants to keep everyone motivated and believing that every job must be earned. If he named Murray the starter from Day 1, that would not serve as the best motivation for McCarthy’s development as a young quarterback trying to gain his NFL footing.

Even if the coaches anticipate that Murray will be the starter, they must first see how he assimilates into a new offense. Every quarterback who has operated O’Connell’s system has described its complexities. Kirk Cousins talked many times about the challenges he faced in learning the scheme and play-call verbiage.

Murray spent seven seasons running a different system in Arizona. Ultimately, football is football, but he faces a learning curve in acclimating to new surroundings, new scheme, new personnel. O’Connell needs to see how that goes before committing to a starter — and make sure that Murray reaches the season in good health.

This becomes a slippery slope given how little on-field practice time teams are allowed in training camp compared to yesteryear.

Murray needs a meaningful workload to get comfortable with his new environment. And McCarthy needs his share of reps, too, because he’s still learning and developing as a quarterback.

Is there enough time to accomplish both? Both quarterbacks took first-team reps in different drills in Wednesday’s workout, which was open to the media.

McCarthy’s progress is a wild card. His debut season proved to be a 10-game roller coaster ride. Injuries, ineffectiveness, voluminous chatter about his mechanics and some measured progress left a fundamental question unanswered — can he be their franchise quarterback? — to the extent that Murray is now part of the organization.

O’Connell earned his “Quarterback Whisperer” nickname by elevating performance, not waving a white flag after 10 games. He must pour as much time and attention into McCarthy’s timeline as Murray’s.

True quarterback competitions are uncommon in the NFL. Teams just don’t enter offseason workouts unsure of who will be their starter between two candidates vying for the job, especially when it includes a veteran in his prime who served as a franchise quarterback elsewhere.

This is the Vikings, though, so nothing is ever too weird involving their quarterback situation. Two quarterbacks sitting on opposite sides of the classroom sounds about right.

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Medaille hit the nail on the head. I'll also add that Kyler got one question about how he's approaching the competition with JJ McCarthy. JJM apparently was asked 12 separate questions about Kyler, the competition, etc. Might have had something to do with the tone of the responses... one guy is asked how he likes MN, how has the move to MN been, and a quick question about his approach to the competition and the other basically gets grilled about how he didn't play well enough last year, what do you think about the team bringing in Kyler, how are you approaching the competition, is it a competition, etc...

We're overanalyzing everything on Day 1 off a couple throwing clips and a 5 interview sesh. Eye roll

medaille wrote:

I didn’t really take it as JJM being pissed at the organization or pissed that there’s competition.  I took it as being annoyed by having to talk to the media jackals about something in which there’s no correct answer and no matter what you say it’s going to be twisted out of context.
If dude’s relaxed, everyone is going to say he doesn’t care.  If he says he cares, people are going to say he’s a softy.  If he comes in tough, people will say he wants out.  There’s no correct answer, because people will twist whatever comes out of his mouth to support what they already believe, and a sizeable chunk of people believe that 10 games of subpar performance with splashes of promise means that he’s just bad forever and there’s nothing he’ll be able to say that doesn’t get twisted.  The only way out of this is to play good on the field in a real game and that’s months away at least and probably longer if Kyler gets the starting gig.
Regardless, he just needs to focus on improving his game as quickly as possible.

JJ got really annoyed when the reporter asked, "Do you feel its an actual true competition" JJ, "Yeah, I mean, that was what I was told"

It is probably tough that JJ keeps getting questions about Murray. Not sure what he expects. Murray answers his questions like he is and was told he is the starter. Oh, hes young, I will help him in any way he needs. You don't think that annoys JJ? You can't learn anything from a guy like Murray. I think Murray should simply shut up. He had major problems with leadership in Arizona. I like JJs angle with all of it. Don't act and fake to the media that we are close, when they aren't, and let me do my thing and you can do yours. It's like that guy at work, yeah, some people have jobs, that tries to "help" you and do it in front of your boss. Even though you know what he is trying to have your boss think. To me, JJ thinks Murray is fake on and off the field. His answers about him makes me think that.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Will Murray win the locker room? Time will tell. Hes had big problems with that in Arizona.

MAD GAINZ wrote:

Medaille hit the nail on the head. I'll also add that Kyler got one question about how he's approaching the competition with JJ McCarthy. JJM apparently was asked 12 separate questions about Kyler, the competition, etc. Might have had something to do with the tone of the responses... one guy is asked how he likes MN, how has the move to MN been, and a quick question about his approach to the competition and the other basically gets grilled about how he didn't play well enough last year, what do you think about the team bringing in Kyler, how are you approaching the competition, is it a competition, etc...
We're overanalyzing everything on Day 1 off a couple throwing clips and a 5 interview sesh. Eye roll

I really don't think so.....at all. Its more telling than you think.

But on to Day 3 of OTAs. 👍

StickierBuns wrote:

I really don't think so.....at all. Its more telling than you think.
But on to Day 3 of OTAs. 👍

This is full on war with JJ and Murray in JJ's head. We aren't thinking too much into it. Murray is that annoying guy trying to act like he is that leader to JJ and JJ is sitting their thinking, get your fake ass out of my face you damn Oompa Loompa. This is a war. JJ will end up being traded before week one. Mark it down.