Yr2 WR speculation to Vikings...

He can't separate at the NFL level, doubt we have any interest.

MAD GAINZ wrote:
He can't separate at the NFL level, doubt we have any interest.

Or read the time to show up for meetings on time.  There were good reasons other than his play that he got benched last year.

I'd trade Tai Felton for him

supafreak84 wrote:
I'd trade Tai Felton for him

That would be the top offer

He ran a 4.61 40.

When a WR is slow they have to make up for it with greater speed and precision inside how they run their route.

Coleman hasn't developed that. A change of scenery won't make up for it.

supafreak84 wrote:
I'd trade Tai Felton for him

I wouldn’t. We don’t have a clue what we have in Felton. We already know Coleman's a bust.

MaroonBells wrote:

I wouldn’t. We don’t have a clue what we have in Felton. We already know Coleman's a bust.

Really? Coleman is only 22 and has 67 catches and 8 TD's over two seasons. Felton is already 23 and had a whopping 3 receptions for 25 yards last year. Which one is the proven bust again?

supafreak84 wrote:

Really? Coleman is only 22 and has 67 catches and 8 TD's over two seasons. Felton is already 23 and had a whopping 3 receptions for 25 yards last year. Which one is the proven bust again?

Neither as of yet...

supafreak84 wrote:

Really? Coleman is only 22 and has 67 catches and 8 TD's over two seasons. Felton is already 23 and had a whopping 3 receptions for 25 yards last year. Which one is the proven bust again?

Are you new here? Felton was behind three very good receivers, a 4th if you add Adam Thielen. He was never going to get snaps. We have no idea what we have in Felton, good, bad or otherwise. Coleman was given every opportunity in Buffalo, missed meetings, and was healthy scratched on two separate occasions and became the red-headed step child in Buffalo's front office divorce. The owner actually blamed the coach for pushing Coleman in the draft. "I didn't want him, YOU wanted him" LOL. 

Sure Felton might still be a bust. Be we know Coleman is. I guess he and Addison can get beers. What could go wrong?

FourCornersViking wrote:

Neither as of yet...

Thats where I'm at too...Especially with a 3rd round receiver and the worst QB''ing in the NFC last year. 

I'm as curious to see his development as I am to see Turner and Jackson yr3 & yr2

MaroonBells wrote:

Are you new here? Felton was behind three very good receivers, a 4th if you add Adam Thielen. He was never going to get snaps. We have no idea what we have in Felton, good, bad or otherwise. Coleman was given every opportunity in Buffalo, missed meetings, and was healthy scratched on two separate occasions and became the red-headed step child in Buffalo's front office divorce. The owner actually blamed the coach for pushing Coleman in the draft. "I didn't want him, YOU wanted him" LOL. 

Sure Felton might still be a bust. Be we know Coleman is. I guess he and Addison can get beers. What could go wrong?

Nah, I've been around since before you were touting Lewis Cine and Brian Asamoah as future stars. But, give me the 22 year old who has proven he can play already. Felton might never catch 8 TD's in his career.

supafreak84 wrote:

Nah, I've been around since before you were touting Lewis Cine and Brian Asamoah as future stars. But, give me the 22 year old who has proven he can play already. Felton might never catch 8 TD's in his career.

Coleman had 4 TDs last year. Justin Jefferson had 2. Now...don’t say I never gave you fantasy advice.

supafreak84 wrote:

Nah, I've been around since before you were touting Lewis Cine and Brian Asamoah as future stars. But, give me the 22 year old who has proven he can play already. Felton might never catch 8 TD's in his career.

When they drafted him some of the Strib beat guys had a story about how the coaches decided they could take him once they verified he could return kicks.   But the emergence of Myles Price relegated him to punt gunner.  3rd round picks need to be doing a lot more than punt gunner, but then it's the Vikings.  Ricky turned four 3rd rounders into four cuts one year if I recall correctly.   Anyhow draft guys who I follow thought it was a bad pick at the time and his inability to even compete with Nailor for WR3 doesn't tell me he has a bright future in the NFL.   But you never know.

comet52 wrote:

When they drafted him some of the Strib beat guys had a story about how the coaches decided they could take him once they verified he could return kicks.   But the emergence of Myles Price relegated him to punt gunner.  3rd round picks need to be doing a lot more than punt gunner, but then it's the Vikings.  Ricky turned four 3rd rounders into four cuts one year if I recall correctly.   Anyhow draft guys who I follow thought it was a bad pick at the time and his inability to even compete with Nailor for WR3 doesn't tell me he has a bright future in the NFL.   But you never know.

I haven't hated a pick that much since Laquon Treadwell. But I hated it because I saw much bigger needs at RB, safety and DT. I knew nothing about Felton. I didn't even look at WRs for us last year. Still, the fact remains that Felton was redshirted (likely to gain some weight), and we know zip, zilch, nada about what he might offer this year.

comet52 wrote:

When they drafted him some of the Strib beat guys had a story about how the coaches decided they could take him once they verified he could return kicks.   But the emergence of Myles Price relegated him to punt gunner.  3rd round picks need to be doing a lot more than punt gunner, but then it's the Vikings.  Ricky turned four 3rd rounders into four cuts one year if I recall correctly.   Anyhow draft guys who I follow thought it was a bad pick at the time and his inability to even compete with Nailor for WR3 doesn't tell me he has a bright future in the NFL.   But you never know.

MaroonBells wrote:

I haven't hated a pick that much since Laquon Treadwell. But I hated it because I saw much bigger needs at RB, safety and DT. I knew nothing about Felton. I didn't even look at WRs for us last year. Still, the fact remains that Felton was redshirted (likely to gain some weight), and we know zip, zilch, nada about what he might offer this year.

In this case we gotta not only wait, but decide to put faith in McCardell or not. This was clearly him pounding the table for a guy. 

Honestly, I'm more curious to see what he's got looking ahead to 26 vs angry about him not playing much behind Jettas/Addison/Nailor last year.

comet52 wrote:

When they drafted him some of the Strib beat guys had a story about how the coaches decided they could take him once they verified he could return kicks.   But the emergence of Myles Price relegated him to punt gunner.  3rd round picks need to be doing a lot more than punt gunner, but then it's the Vikings.  Ricky turned four 3rd rounders into four cuts one year if I recall correctly.   Anyhow draft guys who I follow thought it was a bad pick at the time and his inability to even compete with Nailor for WR3 doesn't tell me he has a bright future in the NFL.   But you never know.

And I think for Felton, right or wrong, how do you not lump him into the par average of every Mensah pick over the last four years? You'd have to think there's a good chance he's a bust after doing absolutely nothing as a rookie

purplefaithful wrote:

In this case we gotta not only wait, but decide to put faith in McCardell or not. This was clearly him pounding the table for a guy. 

Honestly, I'm more curious to see what he's got looking ahead to 26 vs angry about him not playing much behind Jettas/Addison/Nailor last year.

Yeah, that gives me hope. McCardell knows WRs. And after drafting him, I watched some of his clips. He's got some real juice. Reminds me a lot of Jordan Addison actually. He's not the magician Addison is, but he's slightly bigger and he's actually faster. Heard nothing at all about him in last year's camp, so I'll be curious to see if he's got what it takes to move into the Speedy role. 

Whether or not the Vikings draft a WR before day three will tell us everything we need to know about what they think of him.

MaroonBells wrote:

I haven't hated a pick that much since Laquon Treadwell. But I hated it because I saw much bigger needs at RB, safety and DT. I knew nothing about Felton. I didn't even look at WRs for us last year. Still, the fact remains that Felton was redshirted (likely to gain some weight), and we know zip, zilch, nada about what he might offer this year.

comet52 wrote:
I'll see your Laquon Treadwell and raise you one Troy Williamson!

Both were horrible picks among horrible options. Treadwell's fellow 1st round receivers: Corey Coleman, Will Fuller and Josh Doctson. Williamson's 1st round class included Braylon Edwards, Mike Williams, Matt Jones, Mark Clayton and Roddy White. 9 out of 10 were busts.