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Bengals pay Jonathan Allen so much money vikings get 8 million extra cap space

#1 · Mar 12, 12:15 PM
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Former Viking Jonathan Allen headed to the Bengals

Defensive tackle Jonathan Allen, who was officially released by the Vikings on Wednesday, is signing with the Bengals, according to an NFL Network report. It will be a two-year, $26 million deal that can be worth up to $28 million with incentives.

STRIB

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#2 · Mar 12, 12:18 PM
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The Viking1987isback wrote:
Bengals pay Jonathan Allen so much money vikings get 8 million extra cap space

MaroonBells mentioned this earlier. 
Source of the “offset language” (great!  If true) is Thor Nystrom’s source. 

OverTheCap has not adjusted the numbers (as yet https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space)
But prolly after June 1?
https://thevikingage.com/minnesota-vikings-jonathan-allen-signs-cincinnati-bengals
(Actuall relief is > 8 mil?)

’Whether Minnesota gets to take advantage of this newfound spending money now or after June 1st is currently unknown, but at the very least, Allen's reported contract with Cincinnati is expected to give the Vikings some additional salary cap flexibility at some point this offseason.’

Chinese math is simpler,lol

edited Mar 12, 2026 5:51 PM
#3 · Mar 12, 5:45 PM
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Should be applied once the new contract is finalized.

edited Mar 14, 2026 2:04 PM
#4 · Mar 14, 1:48 PM
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Kentis wrote:
Should be applied once the new contract is finalized.

over the cap now has a cross out over Allen’s name (wasn’t there 2 days ago)   But the “dead money “ amount hasn’t changed, even if you change icon to “post June 1 cut”. 

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/minnesota-vikings

Just a little nervous that a source to Thor Nystrom is what everyone is basing this on. Hope it’s true, would be Yuge. Would double our cap amt/flexibility.

Interesting that they signed Hargrave under very similar timing/conditions, but that signing didn’t include similar offset language.

Edit: another new “cross out” is through Harrison Smith (wasn’t there 2 days ago).

edited Mar 14, 2026 2:39 PM
#5 · Mar 14, 2:22 PM
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I am so confused. How in the world does that allow us to lower our cap?

#6 · Mar 14, 3:32 PM
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FLVike wrote:
I am so confused. How in the world does that allow us to lower our cap?

When we signed Jonathan Allen, we apparently (according to Nystrom/source) had "off-set language" in the contract that if we released him (we did) with a post-June 1 designation (we did), the new "signing team" (Bengals, as it happens) guaranteed money  would  reduce (offset) our dead-cap.  

I think.
8-11 million. (double our current cap space)
Which is big, imo, as that $ would sign a nice FA.

Any cap gurus out there, please clarify.

edited Mar 14, 2026 4:40 PM
#7 · Mar 14, 4:26 PM
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savannahskol wrote:

When we signed Jonathan Allen, we apparently (according to Nystrom/source) had "off-set language" in the contract that if we released him (we did) with a post-June 1 designation (we did), the new "signing team" (Bengals, as it happens) guaranteed money  would  reduce (offset) our dead-cap.  

I think.
8-11 million. (double our current cap space)
Which is big, imo, as that $ would sign a nice FA. 

Any cap gurus out there, please clarify.

Why don't we just put that "off-set language" in every contract?

#8 · Mar 15, 10:51 AM
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FLVike wrote:

Why don't we just put that "off-set language" in every contract?

Hargrave should've had the same offset language . 

  Christian Wilkins is still out there for a one year  prove it deal?

 With no cap and Flores connection  it'd make sense.

#9 · Mar 15, 3:39 PM
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Kentis wrote:
Should be applied once the new contract is finalized.

I don't think anyone fully understands this offset thing, but I'm fairly certain whatever savings we see is applied to next year's cap and not this year's.

#10 · Mar 16, 4:18 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:

I don't think anyone fully understands this offset thing, but I'm fairly certain whatever savings we see is applied to next year's cap and not this year's.

Yep, you’re probably right.

#11 · Mar 16, 4:27 PM
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#12 · Mar 17, 5:36 AM
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FLVike wrote:

Why don't we just put that "off-set language" in every contract?

Agents don't want it because it allows players to "double dip" if they are cut.  They collect from both their new and old team.  In this case, Allen would have collected his $8M plus his new contract.  It also makes it easier to cut players if you believe they'll get picked up for a significant part (or all) the money owed.  From an agents point of view, you'll also get longer and more lucrative contracts (on paper) because the offset language helps mitigate risk for a team if a player doesn't perform to contract.  It's essentially betting on the player for a bigger chunk of money.

edited Mar 17, 2026 8:44 AM
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