The only QB scenario we should be talking about

purplefaithful wrote:
Doubling down on JJM is right if thats what their gut say.

If Russini is spot on, it'll be a Dalton, Flacco type...Experienced, a good team player and can win a game if need be - but doesnt have to start to be happy.

I dont think Carr is that guy though - he'll want to start.

Agree. Don't think Carr comes out of retirement to hold a clipboard. 

If we eliminate all the guys who would likely want to come in as the starter (Carr, Murray, Jones, Willis, Rodgers, Cousins), we're kind of left with a short list. I'm no big fan of Geno Smith, but in some ways he makes a lot of sense. 

After his year in Vegas, he's in no position to demand a starting job. He spent half his career as a backup anyway. What's more, I would see a Geno and JJ competition as a fairly even one with no obvious winner. How "real" the competition is might be a bigger factor than we think...for BOTH QBs. 

Geno would also be a QB perfectly capable of running this offense and winning games if he were to win the competition, or if JJ were to go down. He's also just a couple years removed from consecutive Pro Bowl-level seasons, so there's a degree of upside with him as well.

Yeah, 'Ope.
The draft is a crapshoot in the best of times.

FLVike wrote:
Here's the way I see it. After KAM was let go, KOC was told Superbowl or bust by the owners. KOC knows he needs to get to the Superbowl this coming season or he's gone. So, he has weighed his options and is either going to go after a veteran or a very good back up. I wouldn't be surprised at any QB he chooses.  Just my opinion.

We haven't won one in 75 years but now it's SB or bust this season? Cmon. I agree it's a big year for KO but I think as long as the train stays somewhat on the tracks, the most likely outcome is he's our coach again in 2027.

The first part of this is Coller having a discussion with Ben Goessling on the qb situation and trying to dissect comments from the Vikings at the Combine.  I thought it was quite interesting. 

comet52 wrote:
The first part of this is Coller having a discussion with Ben Goessling on the qb situation and trying to dissect comments from the Vikings at the Combine.  I thought it was quite interesting.  

I think this is the most accurate take aligns with what we have seen on the field and comments that KOC has made.  I think Goessling is going to be privy to information we do not have.

pattersaur wrote:

We haven't won one in 75 years but now it's SB or bust this season? Cmon. I agree it's a big year for KO but I think as long as the train stays somewhat on the tracks, the most likely outcome is he's our coach again in 2027.

We were in the Superbowl 50 years ago, where were you?

FLVike wrote:

We were in the Superbowl 50 years ago, where were you?

Yes, we were "IN" the Superbowl for our last time in 1977, but he is correct in that we have not "WON" one. Where he is wrong by saying that it has been 75 years, is that the Vikings have only been around since 1961 so there's that...  Somehow, we are always one of the most competitive teams that has never won one. There must be a curse or something over them but at least I don't think they can claim it is the Kardashian Curse like my Phoenix Suns can, (Thanks Booker!) :(

Daniel McRandall wrote:

Yes, we were "IN" the Superbowl for our last time in 1977, but he is correct in that we have not "WON" one. Where he is wrong by saying that it has been 75 years, is that the Vikings have only been around since 1961 so there's that...  Somehow, we are always one of the most competitive teams that has never won one. There must be a curse or something over them but at least I don't think they can claim it is the Kardashian Curse like my Phoenix Suns can, (Thanks Booker!) :(

My original post said nothing about winning the Superbowl. When i said Superbowl or bust that meant getting to the Superbowl, just like California or bust means getting to California. My point was that, IMO, if KOC doesn't get to the Superbowl then he will be gone. I NEVER said winning the Superbowl.

StickierBuns wrote:
VikingzFanPage @vikingzfanpage · 6m There is “mutual interest” between the #Vikings and #Colts QB Anthony Richardson, who was just granted permission to seek a trade, per @CameronWolfe . Minnesota is a team to keep an eye on.

trey wingo
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From 4th overall to likely traded before his 4th season….

If you can get him for a day 3 26 pick and maybe a conditional pick another year, then I would be good with this one.  He wont be ready to really compete until mid season at the earliest,   which is how long JJM should be given to show hes the man or not. If JJM shows good,  AR stays in the bench,  If Richardson can show any promise in the event that JJM fails you have a young guy that takes the pressure off having to hit on a qb in 27 as you could pivot to him being your QBOTF,  while the new kid simmers in the back burner.

The only way I see us getting a top tier QB in 27 though is to jist give JJM the whole season and for him to be a total bust,  which IMO isn't likely.  Bringing in a competent back up will just make it to hard to get into position to pick a blue chip prospect so then we are back to getting 4th or 5th guy off the board or burning a ton pf picks to move up and not addressing our other positions.

StickierBuns wrote:
VikingzFanPage @vikingzfanpage · 6m There is “mutual interest” between the #Vikings and #Colts QB Anthony Richardson, who was just granted permission to seek a trade, per @CameronWolfe

This makes sense in that it was heavily reported that the Vikes tried very hard to move up to draft him, the question would be was it Kwesi or KOC who really wanted him.

It doesn't make sense from where our QB room currently is, he would come in with many of the same issues as JJM has had in terms of accuracy and durability.  While JJM was a 57% completion rate, Richardson has been 50% in 17 games, that is just crazy.  No thank you!

If we were going to gamble on a younger guy with upside, my choice by far would be Will Levis.

JR44 wrote:

This makes sense in that it was heavily reported that the Vikes tried very hard to move up to draft him, the question would be was it Kwesi or KOC who really wanted him.

It doesn't make sense from where our QB room currently is, he would come in with many of the same issues as JJM has had in terms of accuracy and durability.  While JJM was a 57% completion rate, Richardson has been 50% in 17 games, that is just crazy.  No thank you!

If we were going to gamble on a younger guy with upside, my choice by far would be Will Levis.

I'm with you. AR would be a big gamble. But so would Will Levis. 

So we need "baseline QB" play to hedge our bets against a young, injury-prone QB who has yet to prove he can play in the NFL. And we do that by bringing in another young, injury-prone QB who has yet to prove he can play in the NFL?

MaroonBells wrote:

I'm with you. AR would be a big gamble. But so would Will Levis. 

So we need "baseline QB" play to hedge our bets against a young, injury-prone QB who has yet to prove he can play in the NFL. And we do that by bringing in another young, injury-prone QB who has yet to prove he can play in the NFL?

But what if you don't bring him in as the baseline QB?  You bring him in as a $10M gamble that replaces Brosmer and maybe you can flip him or get a comp 3 for him.

I don't think trading for Richardson really hampers our ability to go get a "baseline QB".  Like Daniel Jones smelled blood in the water with regards to Richardson, wouldn't Carr or Cousins assume they could easily beat him as well?

medaille wrote:

But what if you don't bring him in as the baseline QB?  You bring him in as a $10M gamble that replaces Brosmer and maybe you can flip him or get a comp 3 for him.

I don't think trading for Richardson really hampers our ability to go get a "baseline QB".  Like Daniel Jones smelled blood in the water with regards to Richardson, wouldn't Carr or Cousins assume they could easily beat him as well?

I agree...

I got no issue with AR here as depth, get himself better and a fresh start to some degree. A low pick compensation wise.

We would still need to search for that QB2 though, it aint him.

medaille wrote:

But what if you don't bring him in as the baseline QB?  You bring him in as a $10M gamble that replaces Brosmer and maybe you can flip him or get a comp 3 for him.

I don't think trading for Richardson really hampers our ability to go get a "baseline QB".  Like Daniel Jones smelled blood in the water with regards to Richardson, wouldn't Carr or Cousins assume they could easily beat him as well?

I'm not saying Richardson would hamper our ability to sign the "competition" QB. They ALL want to come to Minnesota. Signing Richardson as QB3 would not change that. 

I'm saying if HE'S the "competition QB," then I think we have a problem because of what I mentioned earlier. But, hey, if you're talking about trading for Richardson as a developmental QB3, then giddy up, paisan. I'm all for that. Just hard to see it happening when other teams can likely offer him QB2. But who knows, maybe KOC's Slugworth-like whispered promises had an impact on him.

MaroonBells wrote:

I'm not saying Richardson would hamper our ability to sign the "competition" QB. They ALL want to come to Minnesota. Signing Richardson as QB3 would not change that. 

I'm saying if HE'S the "competition QB," then I think we have a problem because of what I mentioned earlier. But, hey, if you're talking about trading for Richardson as a developmental QB3, then giddy up, paisan. I'm all for that. Just hard to see it happening when other teams can likely offer him QB2. But who knows, maybe KOC's Slugworth-like whispered promises had an impact on him.

Yeah, I think Richardson as QB2 would be pretty wild.

MaroonBells wrote:

I'm not saying Richardson would hamper our ability to sign the "competition" QB. They ALL want to come to Minnesota. Signing Richardson as QB3 would not change that. 

I'm saying if HE'S the "competition QB," then I think we have a problem because of what I mentioned earlier. But, hey, if you're talking about trading for Richardson as a developmental QB3, then giddy up, paisan. I'm all for that. Just hard to see it happening when other teams can likely offer him QB2. But who knows, maybe KOC's Slugworth-like whispered promises had an impact on him.

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