ICE SHOOTING

JimmyinSD wrote:
Interesting that there is no discussion on this one.  Is this a matter of respect for our fellow posters that we acknowledge that there will be a disagreement as to blame?  I would really like to think this is the case for the sake of our board.

I doubt that is the case though so please be civil as the fucking media and politicians ratchet up the mis information and rhetoric in order to keep our brothers and sisters at odds.

SKOL VIKES!!!

I’m so tired of people pushing back against the police. If they tell you to stop, you stop, no questions asked.  I don’t think she was necessarily trying to run the ICE Agrnt over, but her getting away was more important at that time than the concern she would severely injure an officer. Slow motion replay definitely shows her gunning the car while aimed directly (the wheels spun) at the agent and then also hitting the agent which justified his reaction. She paid a big price for a dumb decision.  It’s too bad on many fronts.  The leaders of the Democrat party are the true murderers here, the same as with Charlie Kirk. The beginning of this video demonstrates pretty clearly she was gunning the car directly at the officer. I think she just stupidly didn't consider that action could kill someone.

Jimmy, we dont see eye:eye on this, but I appreciate the spirit with which you opened the thread

I dont think many believe she was anything but scared and trying to get away. Many dont know (yet) that she was the widow of a military veteran who suffered with PTSD, a mother, a christian a poet and an artist. I told my wife I wish she would have just gotten out of the car - for her children's sake.

We're a resilient group up here in MN; add this to the heap of the 35w bridge collapse, Floyd, Hortmans, Annunciation and more...We will respectfully remember and honor those we lost and we'll overcome in our state wide grief.

Over $1mm has been raised so far on her survivors behalf. Sadly, no amount of $$ will take the place of these children losing their mother.

We have ZERO expectations of anything to come from the Feds investigation, one that the Feds wont partner on with the state BCA...

I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I am experienced. There will be a heavy political price to pay for the political theatre/thumping DC is taking to progressive states. Just a matter of when.

Peace out all...

Time for me to dust off a golden oldie that is sadly relevant again in 2026 for many in our country.

purplefaithful wrote:
Jimmy, we dont see eye:eye on this, but I appreciate the spirit with which you opened the thread

I dont think many believe she was anything but scared and trying to get away. Many dont know (yet) that she was the widow of a military veteran who suffered with PTSD, a mother, a christian a poet and an artist. I told my wife I wish she would have just gotten out of the car - for her children's sake.

We're a resilient group up here in MN; add this to the heap of the 35w bridge collapse, Floyd, Hortmans, Annunciation and more...We will respectfully remember and honor those we lost and we'll overcome in our state wide grief.

Over $1mm has been raised so far on her survivors behalf. Sadly, no amount of $$ will take the place of these children losing their mother.

We have ZERO expectations of anything to come from the Feds investigation, one that the Feds wont partner on with the state BCA...

I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I am experienced. There will be a heavy political price to pay for the political theatre/thumping DC is taking to progressive states. Just a matter of when.

Peace out all...

Time for me to dust off a golden oldie that is sadly relevant again in 2026 for many in our country.

I dont know that I would call what has been taking place in MN the last couple decades as "Progressive"  that term seems to imply successfully moving forward,  I dont see the direction of MN good for many native Minnesotans,  if it were your "progressive" governor wouldnt be fleeing to a conservative state for his retirement years.

as far as the deceased,  she may be a good person,  or this may be the media sugar coat just like george flloyd all over again.  either way she was not an innocent vicitm,  those agents had a job to do and she was interfering with them doing their work.  we will have to agree to disagree on how to perceive her reaction to  a lawful order and nearly taking out a federal law enforcement officer.

I tend to think this video is more appropriate,  it applies to much more than just black people.

JimmyinSD wrote:

I dont know that I would call what has been taking place in MN the last couple decades as "Progressive"  that term seems to imply successfully moving forward,  I dont see the direction of MN good for many native Minnesotans,  if it were your "progressive" governor wouldnt be fleeing to a conservative state for his retirement years.

as far as the deceased,  she may be a good person,  or this may be the media sugar coat just like george flloyd all over again.  either way she was not an innocent vicitm,  those agents had a job to do and she was interfering with them doing their work.  we will have to agree to disagree on how to perceive her reaction to  a lawful order and nearly taking out a federal law enforcement officer.

I tend to think this video is more appropriate,  it applies to much more than just black people.

Jimmy:

Respectfully, I am interested in your thoughts on the following:

1. The Trump administration agreeing to a nearly $5 million settlement in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by a U.S. Capitol Police officer during the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot 
2. Trump's statements that Renee Good “violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE Officer” and "it is hard to believe he is alive."

Thanks.

VikingOracle wrote:

Jimmy:

Respectfully, I am interested in your thoughts on the following:

1. The Trump administration agreeing to a nearly $5 million settlement in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by a U.S. Capitol Police officer during the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot 
2. Trump's statements that Renee Good “violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE Officer” and "it is hard to believe he is alive."

Thanks.

Oracle,

Are you just generally asking Jimmy because you don't know the details or more likely are you insinuating, he's treating similar cases differently?  Please give a detailed explanation of both and why you think they're so similar?  You're implying that they are, so please tell us outside of law enforcement and protestor how they're exactly the same.  I am assuming you know the details, and not just making a lazy comparison?

New vid post from ICE body cam released:

BREAKING: Alpha News has obtained cellphone footage showing perspective of federal agent at center of ICE-involved shooting in Minneapolis pic.twitter.com/p2wks0zew0

— Alpha News (@AlphaNews) January 9, 2026

Footage taken by the ICE Agent forced to shoot a Minneapolis left-wing activist in self-defense proves what we already knew: that Renee Good aimed her two-ton SUV at this ICE agent and hit the gas.

As you can see, the ICE officer in question calmly exits his vehicle and approaches Good’s maroon, two-ton SUV, which she is using to block the road deliberately, and doing so while ICE is engaged in a law enforcement operation.

First, a smug-looking Renee Good taunts the ICE agent from the driver’s seat. Then Good’s equally smug “wife,” Rebecca, taunts the agent. “You wanna come at us?” she says. “You wanna come at us? Why don’t you go get yourself some lunch, big boy? Go ahead.”

It’s worth noting that the ICE agent says nothing in return. He doesn’t take the bait or allow himself to be provoked. He’s doing nothing to escalate the situation.

Nevertheless, the SUV still needs to be moved in order for these ICE officers to do their job and not risk an ambush in a hostile situation, so another agent can be heard ordering Renee to “get out of the car.”

And then it all happens within a second or two.

As the ICE agent in question attempts to walk around the SUV, apparently to assist his colleague in removing the poet from her vehicle, you can see that her tires are aimed screen right. Then she backs up while turning her tires to screen left, which aims the SUV directly at the ICE agent. Then she hits the gas and hits the agent. This is when the ICE agent, who had no choice, shoots her in an obvious case of self-defense.

Watch the video again, and you will see that Renee Good is looking directly at the ICE agent when she hits the gas.

At this point, there is no question that Renee Good did everything possible to get herself shot: She 1) interfered with a law enforcement operation, 2) refused a lawful order to exit her car, 3) backed up her two-ton SUV while being ordered to exit her car, 4) aimed that SUV at an ICE Agent, and 5) hit the gas.

At this point, it doesn’t matter what her intent was. If she was trying to kill the ICE agent, the shooting was justified. If she was willing to run over an ICE agent to escape arrest, the shooting was justified.

Once you prove — as our poet did — that you are willing to use a two-ton vehicle as a deadly weapon, you have proven that you must be stopped because you are not only a danger to this ICE agent, you are a danger to anyone else who makes the mistake of getting in your way.

In this case, deadly force was not only justified; it was the only moral choice.

This ICE officer needs to file defamation suits against every politician and media outlet that declared him a murderer.

-J Nolte

I'll stick to my original contention that I wish she would have gotten out of the car, a life could have been saved and mom would still be raising kids.

I also wish the Feds would have stuck with their original plan/agreement and partnered with the State BCA to put a final verdict on this...

The most likely defense Ross will give is that he feared for his life in the path of her car. As of today, no one except Ross himself can speak to that — not Trump, not Vance or Noem. Nor can any of them say what Good was thinking or intending to do in the final seconds of their encounter.

They can only infer, and that is precisely why investigations exist: to determine what happened, based on evidence. For many, the optics are that Noem has declared herself the judge, jury and executioner on this, without a fair, transparent due process. 

Maybe I am misquoting him, but I think Vance is wrong by saying Feds have absolute immunity:

The answer more lies in that Federal Agents (ice/fbi) do not have absolute immunity from state prosecution for crimes. However, they can often move cases to federal court, where they may assert that their actions were "necessary and proper" to their duties.

Probs a matter of time till a civil suit is filed and I see now that MN (the state) is embarking on their own investigation at this time. Might be a toothless endeavor when its all said and done, but I am glad they choose to move ahead on their own since the Feds booted them to the curb and left them no choice.

VikingOracle wrote:

Jimmy:

Respectfully, I am interested in your thoughts on the following:

1. The Trump administration agreeing to a nearly $5 million settlement in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by a U.S. Capitol Police officer during the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot 
2. Trump's statements that Renee Good “violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE Officer” and "it is hard to believe he is alive."

Thanks.

I dont know enough about the first one to have an educated opinion,  I will say I wouldnt be surprised if the pay out isnt necessarily a matter of guilt,  it may very well be the legal recommendation.  a jury in that area could very easily make a much larger award. I have seen many cases where the victim was very much responsible for their own misfortune and ended up getting paid.  I dont know the circumstances around the shooting so I wont say one way or the other.  I do know that with as many FBI agents that have been tied to that event,  and the evidence of the FBI encouraging and promoting illegal activities,  coupled with all the half truths and lies that have come out about the events of Jan 6th.... I dont know that I would believe what I find on it if I did go digging.

and no I dont believe the deceased in the MN incident is innocent,  I dont know that I believe that she was doing it with intent,  but she put herself into a terrible situation and her children are paying dearly for her recklessness.

purplefaithful wrote:
I'll stick to my original contention that I wish she would have gotten out of the car, a life could have been saved and mom would still be raising kids.

I also wish the Feds would have stuck with their original plan/agreement and partnered with the State BCA to put a final verdict on this...

The most likely defense Ross will give is that he feared for his life in the path of her car. As of today, no one except Ross himself can speak to that — not Trump, not Vance or Noem. Nor can any of them say what Good was thinking or intending to do in the final seconds of their encounter.

That is precisely why investigations exist: to determine what happened, based on evidence. For many, the optics are that Noem has declared herself the judge, jury and executioner on this, without a fair, transparent due process.

Probs a matter of time till a civil suit is filed and I see now that MN (the state) is embarking on their own investigation at this time. Might be a toothless endeavor when its all said and done, but I am glad they choose to move ahead on their own since the Feds booted them to the curb and left them no choice.

you know what would have prevented all of this... if people and the media would just cut the bull shit and let these people do their jobs,  if you dont like their job then change the laws that they are paid to enforce.  its the anti govt rhetoric because they dont like the team that won that is creating these incidents by emboldening and enraging the minions.

JimmyinSD wrote:

I dont know enough about the first one to have an educated opinion,  I will say I wouldnt be surprised if the pay out isnt necessarily a matter of guilt,  it may very well be the legal recommendation.  a jury in that area could very easily make a much larger award. I have seen many cases where the victim was very much responsible for their own misfortune and ended up getting paid.  I dont know the circumstances around the shooting so I wont say one way or the other.  I do know that with as many FBI agents that have been tied to that event,  and the evidence of the FBI encouraging and promoting illegal activities,  coupled with all the half truths and lies that have come out about the events of Jan 6th.... I dont know that I would believe what I find on it if I did go digging.

and no I dont believe the deceased in the MN incident is innocent,  I dont know that I believe that she was doing it with intent,  but she put herself into a terrible situation and her children are paying dearly for her recklessness.

Yes, but do you believe she "ran over" the ICE agent and it is hard to believe that he is alive?  Not asking whether the woman is innocent -- asking whether the administation's initial statements are supported by the facts in your opinion.

BTW, many of the insurrectionist are now seeking compensation for the time they spent in jail -- would you support that?

JimmyinSD wrote:

you know what would have prevented all of this... if people and the media would just cut the bull shit and let these people do their jobs,  if you dont like their job then change the laws that they are paid to enforce.  its the anti govt rhetoric because they dont like the team that won that is creating these incidents by emboldening and enraging the minions.

It's lack of trust regarding the overall "what" "why" and "how."

ICE integrity; the belief (rightly or wrongly) that they are going after more than hardened criminals.
Lack of trust with Feds and Maga politicians and that this surge on MN is fueled by blatant racism, a broader assault against Blue states and a personal vendetta against Walz/Omar.

I am not aligned with Omar or the radical Mpls council myself.

Its just the same as if Biden or Obama were Potus - or George Bush. Just the other side would be the ones doing the mistrusting. 

All I can do as a lawful citizen is use my voting rights next time I get the chance, which will be the Governor election in MN and mid-terms.

I'm going to go pet my Lab now for a while and get some oxytocin pumping around.

VikingOracle wrote:

Yes, but do you believe she "ran over" the ICE agent and it is hard to believe that he is alive?  Not asking whether the woman is innocent -- asking whether the administation's initial statements are supported by the facts in your opinion.

BTW, many of the insurrectionist are now seeking compensation for the time they spent in jail -- would you support that?

I think he exaggerated yes,  do I think the agent was concerned for his life and reacted as trained,  yes.

As far as compensation,  I think it depends on the individuals.  I think I've read about plenty that were unjustly held and should be compensated,   others not likely so much.

savannahskol wrote:
New vid post from ICE body cam released:

BREAKING: Alpha News has obtained cellphone footage showing perspective of federal agent at center of ICE-involved shooting in Minneapolis pic.twitter.com/p2wks0zew0

— Alpha News (@AlphaNews) January 9, 2026

Footage taken by the ICE Agent forced to shoot a Minneapolis left-wing activist in self-defense proves what we already knew: that Renee Good aimed her two-ton SUV at this ICE agent and hit the gas.

As you can see, the ICE officer in question calmly exits his vehicle and approaches Good’s maroon, two-ton SUV, which she is using to block the road deliberately, and doing so while ICE is engaged in a law enforcement operation.

First, a smug-looking Renee Good taunts the ICE agent from the driver’s seat. Then Good’s equally smug “wife,” Rebecca, taunts the agent. “You wanna come at us?” she says. “You wanna come at us? Why don’t you go get yourself some lunch, big boy? Go ahead.”

It’s worth noting that the ICE agent says nothing in return. He doesn’t take the bait or allow himself to be provoked. He’s doing nothing to escalate the situation.

Nevertheless, the SUV still needs to be moved in order for these ICE officers to do their job and not risk an ambush in a hostile situation, so another agent can be heard ordering Renee to “get out of the car.”

And then it all happens within a second or two.

As the ICE agent in question attempts to walk around the SUV, apparently to assist his colleague in removing the poet from her vehicle, you can see that her tires are aimed screen right. Then she backs up while turning her tires to screen left, which aims the SUV directly at the ICE agent. Then she hits the gas and hits the agent. This is when the ICE agent, who had no choice, shoots her in an obvious case of self-defense.

Watch the video again, and you will see that Renee Good is looking directly at the ICE agent when she hits the gas.

At this point, there is no question that Renee Good did everything possible to get herself shot: She 1) interfered with a law enforcement operation, 2) refused a lawful order to exit her car, 3) backed up her two-ton SUV while being ordered to exit her car, 4) aimed that SUV at an ICE Agent, and 5) hit the gas.

At this point, it doesn’t matter what her intent was. If she was trying to kill the ICE agent, the shooting was justified. If she was willing to run over an ICE agent to escape arrest, the shooting was justified.

Once you prove — as our poet did — that you are willing to use a two-ton vehicle as a deadly weapon, you have proven that you must be stopped because you are not only a danger to this ICE agent, you are a danger to anyone else who makes the mistake of getting in your way.

In this case, deadly force was not only justified; it was the only moral choice.

This ICE officer needs to file defamation suits against every politician and media outlet that declared him a murderer.

-J Nolte

After watching the video I linked above from the ICE officer chest, CNN's chief law enforcement analyst
has opined the shooting was justified.  

On Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Story Is,” CNN Law Enforcement Contributor Steve Moore stated that the new video of the shooting by ICE in Minneapolis “leads me to believe that this was likely a legally justified shooting” and while he wasn’t ready to say whether or not the shooting was a justified shooting before the video, he now believes “a reasonable investigation will find that the officer was within the deadly force policy.”

Moore said, “Up until this point, I wasn’t absolutely ready to come out and say that this, in my opinion, was probably a good shoot or not a good shoot. There was so much out there, and you just couldn’t tell. This one leads me to believe that this was likely a legally justified shooting.”

He added, “Legally justified means that a reasonable law enforcement officer — not a reasonable person on the street — but a trained law enforcement officer, believed that they were in imminent danger of losing their life or suffering grievous bodily injuries. It doesn’t have to be lethal force if it paralyzes you. That’s the type of thing. So, I believe, at that point, the officer was likely — and a reasonable investigation will find that the officer was within the deadly force policy.”

The Mpls Star had a pretty good break down too.

Is there any point debating warranted shooting or not at this point? Imo that boat has sailed and it sailed the day it happened. 

I dont want to drag this out any longer than it has to for the people of this state. Many want ice to leave, no more people need to die, no more racist chants need to be raged from the White House. 

It was inevitable that someone in our state was going to die during this surge imo. Sure wish I would have been wrong on that one.

purplefaithful wrote:
The Mpls Star had a pretty good break down too.

Is there any point debating warranted shooting or not at this point? Imo that boat has sailed and it sailed the day it happened. 

I dont want to drag this out any longer than it has to for the people of this state. Many want ice to leave, no more people need to die, no more racist chants need to be raged from the White House. 

It was inevitable that someone in our state was going to die during this surge imo. Sure wish I would have been wrong on that one.

If MN had followed the laws of the land instead of the wishes of party leadership...this doesnt happen,  if the media reports the news instead of inciting illegal actions against law officers this doesnt happen,  if MN had directed their law enforcement officers to assist the federal agencies by clearing the way for the feds to make their arrests and not allowing the manipulated populace put themselves in harms way... those kids still have their mom tonight.  This isn't about the current white house occupants,  this was set in motion before Trump and was set in stone by democrats brainwashing rhetoric and unwillingness to enforce US laws.

If this was yet again another example of an illegal killing a US citizen....it barely makes the local news,  there's no political gain in that story.  Its only a story because of the potential political value....which is the real tragedy.

JimmyinSD wrote:

If MN had followed the laws of the land instead of the wishes of party leadership...this doesnt happen,  if the media reports the news instead of inciting illegal actions against law officers this doesnt happen,  if MN had directed their law enforcement officers to assist the federal agencies by clearing the way for the feds to make their arrests and not allowing the manipulated populace put themselves in harms way... those kids still have their mom tonight.  This isn't about the current white house occupants,  this was set in motion before Trump and was set in stone by democrats brainwashing rhetoric and unwillingness to enforce US laws.

If this was yet again another example of an illegal killing a US citizen....it barely makes the local news,  there's no political gain in that story.  Its only a story because of the potential political value....which is the real tragedy.

We're on different planets on this one my friend...We'll just have to agree to disagree. 

Sadly, whats getting lost in all of this is the intersection where we do agree; removing criminals from our streets.

Like I said earlier, the problem for many is how (and why) the Feds are going about it. This looks, feels and smells like a federal political assault against a blue state in our union and a personal vendetta against Walz. 

It's a campaign who's intent has transcended the reason ICE exists. Getting criminal illegal immigrants out of the US.  

There aren't many here who believe it is only hardened criminals being put behind bars. Families who are good citizens are getting torn apart. 

And where was the conservative pushback on Potus when he was blatantly going after an entire ethnic group in the US? The silence has been deafening. 

In the interim, I hope nobody else gets hurt or loses their life. So proud of the resilience, love/community from the peeps here in Minny..

Many, many "ice out for good" rallies yesterday and more across the state today. 

Lawful and peaceful rallies, from Mpls through the suburbs and out to the sticks of Wabasha and more...We're all counting the days till Trump ends the fed political assault and Ice leaves us alone. 

purplefaithful wrote:

We're on different planets on this one my friend...We'll just have to agree to disagree. 

Sadly, whats getting lost in all of this is the intersection where we do agree; removing criminals from our streets.

Like I said earlier, the problem for many is how (and why) the Feds are going about it. This looks, feels and smells like a political assault and personal vendetta against Walz. Its a campaign that has transcended illegal immigration. 

There aren't many here who believe it is only hardened criminals being pulled of the streets, or off their jobs...As a result families who are good citizens are getting torn apart. 

In the interim, I hope nobody else gets hurt or loses their life. So proud of the resilience, love/community from the peeps here in Minny..

Many, many "ice out for good" rallies yesterday and more across the state today. 

Lawful and peaceful rallies, from Mpls through the suburbs and out to the sticks of Wabasha and more...We're all counting the days till Trump ends the fed political assault and Ice leaves us alone. 

Why is it a political move agaisnt walz?  Thats weak,  they were hitting SD long before MN,  was that political as well?  Come on man,  change the channel.

JimmyinSD wrote:

Why is it a political move agaisnt walz?  Thats weak,  they were hitting SD long before MN,  was that political as well?  Come on man,  change the channel.

I'm glad you mention that, it does make me feel a little better about the situation. That said, I think there is a big stripe of personal vendetta in this. There is no love lost between Trump/Noem or our current Gov.

I'm going to tap-out of for the time being and enjoy Sunday. I hope u do the same!

purplefaithful wrote:

I'm glad you mention that, it does make me feel a little better about the situation. That said,  I think there is a big stripe of personal vendetta in this. There is no love lost between Trump/Noem or our current Gov.

I'm going to tap-out of for the time being and enjoy Sunday. I hope u do the same!

You're not really acknowledging that we're a year into Trump's administration and Minneapolis in addition to being a sanctuary city is also home to rampant fraud that coincides with illegals dotting the landscape.  MN has NOT acted in good faith with ICE in either arresting or giving information to the Feds about their "worst".  They defend the worst the same as they defend people who came in peace.  That puts the onus on ICE to take more radical measures.  Of all the arguments that piss me off with the left, it's the 'you're supposed to arrest the bad guys first'.  Well, help them do so.  You're not doing it today; you're interfering with it at every turn and no matter what the circumstance.  I think it's a stretch to say this is political retaliation when we've already seen rampant action in DC, LA, Memphis, Chicago, and Portland.  He's going where there are big problems either with crime or in general law and order.  Now you're stamping out the biggest known area of fraud in all of the states and it's interconnected with quid pro quo Democrats.  That's on Tampon, not on Trump.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dhs-demands-mn-leaders-honor-ice-detainers-alleges-hundreds-criminal-aliens-have-been-released-under-walz

Read a report on X that 24 minneapolis PD officers gave resigned over shit that frey has said, and that 18 of them have hired on with ICE.  I missed it,  but apparently Frey said that the people of minneapolis have been asking for the police to fight ICE?  Its crazy becuase in other areas where the local and state cooperates and assists we dont hear of all these problems,  and have heard that the legals are assisting behind the scenes to make their neighborhoods safer by tipping off ICE as to who and where.

EDIT:  the part about  MPD appears to have been fake news.