Hypothetical question - If KAM is CANned...

Kwesi Adofo-Mensah’s Drafts Picks

The Vikings’ 2022 NFL Draft

Cine, Lewis 1st RD – 32nd Safety Georgia SEC
Booth Jr., Andrew 2nd RD – 42nd Corner Clemson ACC
Ingram, Ed 2nd RD – 59th Guard LSU SEC
Asamoah, Brian 3rd RD – 66th Linebacker Oklahoma Big 12
Evans, Akayleb 4th RD – 118th Corner Missouri SEC
Otomewo, Esezi 5th RD – 165th Defensive End Minnesota Big 10
Chandler, Ty 5th RD – 169th Running Back North Carolina ACC
Lowe, Vederian 6th RD – 184th Offensive Tackle Illinois Big 10
Nailor, Jalen 6th RD – 191st Wide Receiver Michigan St. Big 10
Muse, Nick 7th RD – 227th Tight End South Carolina SEC

The Vikings’ 2023 NFL Draft

Addison, Jordan 1st RD – 23rd Wide Receiver USC Pac-12
Blackmon, Mekhi 3rd RD – 102nd Corner USC Pac-12
Ward, Jay 4th RD – 134th Defensive Back LSU SEC
Roy, Jaquelin 5th RD – 141st Defensive Tackle LSU SEC
Hall, Jaren 5th RD – 164th Quarterback BYU Independent
McBride, DeWayne 7th RD – 222nd Running Back UAB Conference USA

The Vikings’ 2024 NFL Draft

McCarthy, J.J. 1st RD – 10th Quarterback Michigan Big 10
Turner, Dallas 1st RD – 17th Edge Rusher Alabama SEC
Jackson, Khyree 4th RD – 108th Corner Oregon Pac-12
Rouse, Walter 6th RD – 177th Offensive Tackle Oklahoma Big 12
Reichard, Will 6th RD – 203rd Kicker Alabama SEC
Jurgens, Michael 7th RD – 230th Center/Guard Wake Forest ACC
Rodriguez, Levi Drake 7th RD – 232nd Defensive Tackle Texas A&M Commerce ?

The Vikings’ 2025 NFL Draft

Jackson, Donovan 1st RD – 24th Left Guard Ohio State Big 10
Felton, Tai 3rd RD – 102nd Wide Receiver Maryland Big 10
Ingram-Dawkins, Tyrion 5th RD – 139th Defensive End Georgia SEC
King, Kobe 6th RD – 201st Linebacker Penn State Big 10
Bartholomew, Gavin 6th RD – 202nd Tight End Pittsburgh ACC

supafreak84 wrote:
I mean I'd still love to know the real reasons why the Wilfs hired Kwesi in the first place. I think we all know why, but I'd love for the Wilfs to give a straight answer. His resume was so completely lacking and you bring him over from a totally dysfunctional Cleveland organization where he ran "football operations" for a year. No scouting or personnel experience in his background whatsoever. He made sure there were enough towels on the sidelines and that the hotdog cart was filled for gamedays. Why would the Wilfs, who are supposedly smart people, just say, "ahh screw it" and hand him over the keys to a playoff quality roster? He is the Les Steckel of GM hires and goes down as probably the strangest hire in this organizations history IMO. I was one of the few who called it an awful hire at the time and its played out as expected. To make matters worse they've further multiplied the problem by bringing in Grigson, a completely failed GM himself, to be his right hand man and "voice of reason" in the draft room. The sooner this problem is rectified by the owners who created it, the better we will be as an organization moving forward.

Looks like most of us are agreeable that McKay should absolutely be interviewed

I think they'd been pretty conventional in their previous front office and head coaching hires, and hadn't gotten the results they hoped for. So they saw the appeal of going the unconventional route and hired more of a disruptor type. Speculation of course but I can see how a professional, business-minded wizkid would appeal to them after years of Zimmer and Spielman squabbling and giving each other the cold shoulder.

Not saying they made the best hire, but I can envision some of the rationale.

pattersaur wrote:

I think they'd been pretty conventional in their previous front office and head coaching hires, and hadn't gotten the results they hoped for. So they saw the appeal of going the unconventional route and hired more of a disruptor type. Speculation of course but I can see how a professional, business-minded wizkid would appeal to them after years of Zimmer and Spielman squabbling and giving each other the cold shoulder.

Not saying they made the best hire, but I can envision some of the rationale.

That's fair, but I would deem it to be unwise going unconventional at the GM position. It's like needing a mechanic to fix your Mercedes, but the last mechanic overcharged you, so instead you hire your buddies uncle who's dabbled in lawnmower repair to do the job.

supafreak84 wrote:

That's fair, but I would deem it to be unwise going unconventional at the GM position. It's like needing a mechanic to fix your Mercedes, but the last mechanic overcharged you, so instead you hire your buddies uncle who's dabbled in lawnmower repair to do the job.

I would say your buddies uncle that read a brochure on lawnmower maintenance.

supafreak84 wrote:
I mean I'd still love to know the real reasons why the Wilfs hired Kwesi in the first place. I think we all know why, but I'd love for the Wilfs to give a straight answer. His resume was so completely lacking and you bring him over from a totally dysfunctional Cleveland organization where he ran "football operations" for a year. No scouting or personnel experience in his background whatsoever. He made sure there were enough towels on the sidelines and that the hotdog cart was filled for gamedays. Why would the Wilfs, who are supposedly smart people, just say, "ahh screw it" and hand him over the keys to a playoff quality roster? He is the Les Steckel of GM hires and goes down as probably the strangest hire in this organizations history IMO. I was one of the few who called it an awful hire at the time and its played out as expected. To make matters worse they've further multiplied the problem by bringing in Grigson, a completely failed GM himself, to be his right hand man and "voice of reason" in the draft room. The sooner this problem is rectified by the owners who created it, the better we will be as an organization moving forward.

Looks like most of us are agreeable that McKay should absolutely be interviewed

The George Floyd protests were still going when Kwesi was hired.  Nuff said.  It's not that Kwesi was completely unqualified...it's just that he wasn't likely the most qualified and the draft results have been dismal during his tenure.

FLVike wrote:

I would say your buddies uncle that read a brochure on lawnmower maintenance.

badgervike wrote:
The George Floyd protests were still going when Kwesi was hired.  Nuff said.  It's not that Kwesi was completely unqualified...it's just that he wasn't likely the most qualified and the draft results have been dismal during his tenure.

I concur with that assessment and think that absolutely played a factor. And again, has nothing to do with the fact he is black or that his name is Kwesi Adolfo-Mensah, but everything to do with the fact that he just wasnt qualified or had the proper background for the job he was given.

supafreak84 wrote:

I concur with that assessment and think that absolutely played a factor. And again, has nothing to do with the fact he is black or that his name is Kwesi Adolfo-Mensah, but everything to do with the fact that he just wasnt qualified or had the proper background for the job he was given.

He was hired,  the why no longer matters and since none of us have any financial interest in the team,  it never really did matter.  They own the team and can hire whoever the hell they want regardless of qualifications.   Constantly harping on it being race motivated does nothing except make you look like that you have a deeper issue here, im not saying you do, but that is a perception you are creating.

JimmyinSD wrote:

He was hired,  the why no longer matters and since none of us have any financial interest in the team,  it never really did matter.  They own the team and can hire whoever the hell they want regardless of qualifications.   Constantly harping on it being race motivated does nothing except make you look like that you have a deeper issue here, im not saying you do, but that is a perception you are creating.

The only issue I have Jimmy is they hired an unqualified candidate to run the organization and the results have been less than stellar. All the evidence points to the hiring being about things other than football qualifications, but yeah, it doesn't matter at this point. Just hoping for the mistake to be rectified so I can have a little confidence going into a draft for once

supafreak84 wrote:

The only issue I have Jimmy is they hired an unqualified candidate to run the organization and the results have been less than stellar. All the evidence points to the hiring being about things other than football qualifications, but yeah, it doesn't matter at this point. Just hoping for the mistake to be rectified so I can have a little confidence going into a draft for once

It must matter since you bring it up every day for 3 years running.  You think everyone on this board hasn't heard your p.o.v. and needs another dose?

What you're missing is that the Wilfs have made a lot of bad and mediocre hires, imo because they've lacked a solid process from day one.  And their fondest dream is to hire guys then go away and do whatever they are actually interested in that clearly isn't football, i.e. having a set it and forget it franchise.  How do you think they ended up with a previous GM and HC who hated each other and sabotaged the team?  They didn't have a clue, sitting in their Park Avenue penthouse sipping 100 year old cognac and reading the Wall Street Journal lol.

So when your dream comes true (some day, maybe) and KAM gets the boot, just be ready for the next guy to continue the franchise goal of average dressed up by the p.r. department as great.

They will probably promote from within if it comes down to a g.m. change.  How would that make you feel?   "Whew, finally got rid of the bad guy, now we're gonna really cook with Mr. Success Ryan Grigson!"

He's definitely not a blind squirrel

comet52 wrote:

It must matter since you bring it up every day for 3 years running.  You think everyone on this board hasn't heard your p.o.v. and needs another dose?

What you're missing is that the Wilfs have made a lot of bad and mediocre hires, imo because they've lacked a solid process from day one.  And their fondest dream is to hire guys then go away and do whatever they are actually interested in that clearly isn't football, i.e. having a set it and forget it franchise.  How do you think they ended up with a previous GM and HC who hated each other and sabotaged the team?  They didn't have a clue, sitting in their Park Avenue penthouse sipping 100 year old cognac and reading the Wall Street Journal lol.

So when your dream comes true (some day, maybe) and KAM gets the boot, just be ready for the next guy to continue the franchise goal of average dressed up by the p.r. department as great.

They will probably promote from within if it comes down to a g.m. change.  How would that make you feel?   "Whew, finally got rid of the bad guy, now we're gonna really cook with Mr. Success Ryan Grigson!"

When people are hired for reasons other than their resume and qualifications (obviously), fail, and four years later your team is out of the playoff contention before Thanksgiving under their watch...then yeah, it matters and still matters because that single unqualified hire has erroded the roster with poor draft decisions that have forced us to grossly overspend in free agency. Its a domino effect that has played out based on the Wilfs making one "outside the box hire" to run the organization. We all know it. Maybe some don't want to acknowledge it, but we all know it. It is what it is at this point and like I said, hoping it's a mistake that gets rectified this offseason. No need to continue the discussion at this point. 

Grigson will wash out in the flood if changes are made. No way he is retained as he's taken almost as much heat as Kwesi in the media and we know negative media doesn't sit well with the Wilfs