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Flores lawsuit against NFL can proceed

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NEW YORK -- The NFL can be put on trial over civil claims that Brian Flores and other Black coaches face discrimination, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday, finding insurmountable flaws with a league arbitration process that would permit commissioner Roger Goodell to serve as arbitrator.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan upheld Judge Valerie Caproni's ruling that Flores can proceed with claims against the league and three teams: the Denver Broncos, the New York Giants and the Houston Texans.

In a decision written by Circuit Judge Jose A. Cabranes, the appeals court said the NFL's arbitration rules forcing Flores to submit his claims to arbitration before Goodell do not have the protection of the Federal Arbitration Act because they provide for "arbitration in name only."

The 2nd Circuit said the NFL constitution's arbitration provision "contractually provides for no independent arbitral forum, no bilateral dispute resolution, and no procedure."

"Instead, it offends basic presumptions of our arbitration jurisprudence" by forcing claims to be decided by the NFL's "principal executive officer," the appeals court said.

"The significance of the Second Circuit's decision cannot be overstated," Flores' attorneys -- Douglas H. Wigdor, David E. Gottlieb and John Elefterakis -- said in a statement. "For too long, the NFL has relied on a fundamentally biased and unfair arbitration process -- even in cases involving serious claims of discrimination. This ruling sends a clear message: that practice must end. This is a victory not only for NFL employees, but for workers across the country -- and for anyone who believes in transparency, accountability and justice."

NFL spokesperson Brian McCarthy said: "We respectfully disagree with the panel's ruling, and will be seeking further review."

In February 2022, Flores sued the NFL and several teams, saying the league was "rife with racism," particularly in its hiring and promotion of Black coaches. Other coaches later joined the lawsuit as plaintiffs.

After filing his lawsuit, Flores said he believed he was risking the coaching career he loves by suing the NFL, but he said it would be worth it for generations to come if he could succeed in challenging systemic racism in the league.

Flores is the defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings after working previously as a coach for the New England Patriots from 2008 to 2018, the Miami Dolphins from 2019 to 2021 and the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2022. He joined the Vikings in 2023.

Caproni said in a March 2023 decision that descriptions by the coaches of their experiences of racial discrimination in a league with a "long history of systematic discrimination toward Black players, coaches, and managers -- are incredibly troubling."

"Although the clear majority of professional football players are Black, only a tiny percentage of coaches are Black," she said.

Caproni ruled in 2023 that Flores must pursue his claims against the Dolphins, who had fired him, through arbitration.

Source:  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45973801/court-agrees-brian-flores-suit-vs-nfl-3-teams-go-trial

#1 · Aug 14, 11:10 AM
purplefaithful
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Good, maybe we can keep him as DC longer...

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#2 · Aug 14, 11:14 AM
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Basically the same ruling as the Gruden suit.  Arbitration with one side's rep making the decision is not a just process, which I agree with.

My guess is the NFL will appeal one or both cases to the Supreme Court to delay things further.

#3 · Aug 14, 11:15 AM
BU
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comet52 wrote:
Basically the same ruling as the Gruden suit.  Arbitration with one side's rep making the decision is not a just process, which I agree with.

My guess is the NFL will appeal one or both cases to the Supreme Court to delay things further.

Yes it gets delayed which is actually a good thing for the Vikings.  Flores odds of getting a head coaching position are extremely slim until the lawsuit is resolved.  Even then it will likely take a year or two.  So we have at minimum likely a 3-5 year window with Flores as our DC as long as things continue to go well.

#4 · Aug 14, 12:38 PM
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comet52 wrote:
Basically the same ruling as the Gruden suit.  Arbitration with one side's rep making the decision is not a just process, which I agree with.

My guess is the NFL will appeal one or both cases to the Supreme Court to delay things further.

Your first point is spot on. How the players union ever agreed to that is pretty wild. I suppose it’s easy to think, “whatever,” for the majority of players who will never encounter the process. But yeah on it’s face, it’s ridiculous.

edited Aug 14, 2025 4:04 PM
#5 · Aug 14, 12:57 PM
Montana Tom
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purplefaithful wrote:
Good, maybe we can keep him as DC longer...

Exactly my very first thought.
With an active lawsuit against the league, he is radioactive as a head coach.  
This is good news for us.

comet52 wrote:
Basically the same ruling as the Gruden suit.  Arbitration with one side's rep making the decision is not a just process, which I agree with.

My guess is the NFL will appeal one or both cases to the Supreme Court to delay things further.

Interestingly, the Gruden lawsuit has no winners.

Jon Gruden isn't contesting the fact that he made racist and homophobic comments in emails.  He did.  He is not a winner.
Someone at the NFL leaked those emails intentionally, causing him to lose his coaching job, which is going to cost the league a pretty penny in a litigation loss.

No winners here.

edited Aug 14, 2025 1:20 PM
#6 · Aug 14, 1:18 PM
MA
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I don't see how Flo leaves to become a Hc until this is sorted out.

0% chance that happens by Feb/Mar 2026 when new coaches are hired

#7 · Aug 14, 3:15 PM
comet52
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Montana Tom wrote:
Someone at the NFL leaked those emails intentionally, causing him to lose his coaching job, which is going to cost the league a pretty penny in a litigation loss.

No winners here.


Or the league wins because that's not how the emails actually leaked. Nothing's proven at this point despite everyone cheering for Gruden for who knows what reason--guy's a dbag imo.

Clearly the league was going to start with their attempt at Goodell getting to decide a case against himself, so to speak. Next up, lots of lawyers.

#8 · Aug 14, 6:31 PM
Kentis
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Fun fact: It is estimated that over 50,000 lawsuits are filed every day in the United States. This translates to more than 1,143,358 lawsuits filed annually. Litigious country we live in… :cool: :angel:

#9 · Aug 14, 6:54 PM
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