Why arent the 2nd rd'ers signing?
Not that we would care in Viking land (lol, sigh)
This was called out in another thread too
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
Here's why...
Wild: The Texans just broke the NFL.
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) July 13, 2025
They gave Jayden Higgins the first fully guaranteed 2nd-round rookie deal ever.
Now, almost every 2nd-round pick (30 of the 32) is still unsigned and is actively refusing to sign.
Rookie contracts will never be the same 🤯🤯 pic.twitter.com/S096hzBDxJ
I'm sure the Texans ownership group will be popular at the next owners meeting.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
dadevike wrote:
Agents have been trying for years to get more guaranteed money. Now we are talking about second rounders. It will not stop there.
Nope. Nor should it. TV contracts are skyrocketing, most team values double every 5 or 6 years, revenues are through the roof and the salary cap doubles every 10 years. Player salaries are only keeping pace. The NFL's first ever fully guaranteed contract was signed only 7 years ago (Kirk Cousins). Now dozens of players have fully guaranteed deals, including all 1st rounders taken in the last few years. JJ's contract is fully guaranteed, as is Dallas Turner's. I think by next year it's likely all 2nd rounders will be guaranteed. Then 3rd, then 4th....
MaroonBells wrote:
Nope. Nor should it. TV contracts are skyrocketing, most team values double every 5 or 6 years, revenues are through the roof and the salary cap doubles every 10 years. Player salaries are only keeping pace. The NFL's first ever fully guaranteed contract was signed only 7 years ago (Kirk Cousins). Now dozens of players have fully guaranteed deals, including all 1st rounders taken in the last few years. JJ's contract is fully guaranteed, as is Dallas Turner's. I think by next year it's likely all 2nd rounders will be guaranteed. Then 3rd, then 4th....
Not sure rookie contracts should be fully guaranteed. Vets get contracts based largely on what they have done and the expectation that production will continue/increase. Rookies haven't done anything and a large portion won't.
If this is the case, the scouts' jobs will become a premium.
greediron wrote:
Not sure rookie contracts should be fully guaranteed. Vets get contracts based largely on what they have done and the expectation that production will continue/increase. Rookies haven't done anything and a large portion won't.
It's just the market. Whether they should or shouldn't is irrelevant.
MaroonBells wrote:
Nope. Nor should it. TV contracts are skyrocketing, most team values double every 5 or 6 years, revenues are through the roof and the salary cap doubles every 10 years. Player salaries are only keeping pace. The NFL's first ever fully guaranteed contract was signed only 7 years ago (Kirk Cousins). Now dozens of players have fully guaranteed deals, including all 1st rounders taken in the last few years. JJ's contract is fully guaranteed, as is Dallas Turner's. I think by next year it's likely all 2nd rounders will be guaranteed. Then 3rd, then 4th....
I don't disagree. I am in favor of players getting paid. But the NFL is governed by a CBA. The current one will eventually yield to a new one. Just as rookie salaries became fixed depending on where the rookie was taken in the draft, the parties to a new CBA can agree that only the contracts for the top 50 players taken in the draft will be fully guaranteed. The trend is towards more guaranteed contracts, but I don't think the owners will just let that happen without putting up a fight.
dadevike wrote:
I don't disagree. I am in favor of players getting paid. But the NFL is governed by a CBA. The current one will eventually yield to a new one. Just as rookie salaries became fixed depending on where the rookie was taken in the draft, the parties to a new CBA can agree that only the contracts for the top 50 players taken in the draft will be fully guaranteed. The trend is towards more guaranteed contracts, but I don't think the owners will just let that happen without putting up a fight.
They’ll put up a fight. Might even win, pressing pause on the escalating guarantees. But only temporarily. As teams become more and more profitable, agents will expect them to take on more and more risk.
MaroonBells wrote:
They’ll put up a fight. Might even win, pressing pause on the escalating guarantees. But only temporarily. As teams become more and more profitable, agents will expect them to take on more and more risk.
No doubt that as the NFL's TV and streaming revenues continue to increase - sometimes explosively - player salaries will also continue to increase. But no matter what the cap is, teams will continue to push up against the higher and higher salary cap. I think that is really the issue with the guarantees. Not just owners but GMs absolutely HATE paying players that do not contribute. It is not primarily an injury issue. It is mostly the notion that drafted players outside the top 50 (more or less) are a crapshoot and GMs will not want to guaranty their contracts. And I do not see that sentiment ever changing.
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