OT: Texas Flood

The Minnesota Vikings and the Wilf Family have committed $500,000 to support rescue and recovery efforts from the devastating floods in Kerr County and Texas Hill Country. pic.twitter.com/7eqPRybe1d

— Minnesota Vikings (@Vikings) July 9, 2025

I wouldn’t want this to turn political either if my politics left me with blood on my hands. 

My conscience is clear. You?

And because some cant follow the rules, the thread is relocated.

💙 HEROIC CAMP COUNSELORS SAVE 20 GIRLS | Two 19-year-old counselors from Mexico, Silvana Garza Valdez and María Paula Zárate, helped save 20 young girls during the Camp Mystic flood.

They kept them calm, moved them to safety, and wrote names on their arms for ID. True heroes. pic.twitter.com/FPn30549QW

— John-Carlos Estrada 🎙️ (@Mr_JCE) July 7, 2025

“We're brothers. They're no flags or countries in between firefighters. We're humans and we're helping a humans. So that's what matters.”

Rescue workers from Mexico are helping search for survivors and lost loved ones in Central Texas flood response. pic.twitter.com/XNMA7HycAJ

— HOUmanitarian ™ (@HOUmanitarian) July 8, 2025

Vikergirl wrote:
https://x.com/Mr_JCE/status/1942203350457434340?t=-LKD7HC2Gqr6ZjCrrKFJUQ&s=19

Not to take away from their efforts as it was a horrific experience but these girls were counselors at the newer Cypress Lake part of Camp Mystic which is away from the river and up a hill so their kids were never in danger from the flooding.  The kids that were evacuated from Camp Mystic were supposed to be evacuated to the Cypress Lake location originally to the mess hall and than they were to be assigned to the bunk halls at Cypress Lake to borrow clothing, etc. from those on higher ground.   The National Guard intervened and evacuated all the kids. Some of the writing of names was to help kids with each others names.  

These two girls were part of a summer exchange program from Mexico and were interviewed on Mexican TV because of the local interest...the legend grew from there.

https://www.campmystic.com/cypress-lake/

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/07/08/texas-flooding-camp-mexican-counselors/

Vikergirl wrote:

It will always be CYA time and it is political. The response to different disasters has shown that unfortunately. It shouldn't be that way though. Cuts to NOAA, NWS and FEMA are having an impact. I don't care where the disaster is in this country, funding should be available period. Prevention, warning systems and alerts and support afterwards should not be political

Did Biden make cuts to these programs because they sure as hell haven't been implemented on Trumps watch at this point?

Waterboy wrote:

Did Biden make cuts to these programs because they sure as hell haven't been implemented on Trumps watch at this point?

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/staffing-cuts-at-nws-and-the-tragic-flooding-in-texas/

badgervike wrote:

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/staffing-cuts-at-nws-and-the-tragic-flooding-in-texas/

Even though it supports me in this case, I have zero use for fact checkers.  They're usually as or more biased than the people they're fact checking.  The common-sense approach here is that Trump just got to act on his first real financial (budgeted) bill.  Democrats will use every crisis to jump on Republicans for cuts, kinda like every time it storms it has to be climate change.  Common sense tells us that there are a lot of other factors that were in play here that had nothing to do with staffing or support from federal agencies.  People that believe that want to believe that to validate their point, not from factual information.

Waterboy wrote:

Even though it supports me in this case, I have zero use for fact checkers.  They're usually as or more biased than the people they're fact checking.  The common-sense approach here is that Trump just got to act on his first real financial (budgeted) bill.  Democrats will use every crisis to jump on Republicans for cuts, kinda like every time it storms it has to be climate change.  Common sense tells us that there are a lot of other factors that were in play here that had nothing to do with staffing or support from federal agencies.  People that believe that want to believe that to validate their point, not from factual information.

No disagreement on Fact checkers.  They exist purely to provide political cover to the Left.  I had an issue with a Politifact local ruling in Wisconsin centered around state politics and talked with the guy from the Milwaukee Journal that made the ruling (on behalf of Politifact National). The ruling was so clearly false and he ruled mostly true by distorting the truth and extrapolating a lot of what ifs which they expressly say in their rulings they avoid.  At the end of the conversation, he acknowledged my points but basically confirmed they existed to support a position.  There used to be a website called Politifactlies which would fact check the fact checker. If you believe their rulings, Republicans lie 3 or 4 times as much as a Democrat.  The reality is they cherry pick topics and carve a response based on liberal ideology.

Have you ever heard anyone on the right say "Well...Politifact...or Factcheck...or Snopes says X".  It's purely used by the Liberal base to justify their opinions.  So...when they say that they were staffed and warned appropriately...you can take it to the bank.

Regardless of fact checkers or no, facts are that the area received more than ample notice of the impending danger and for whatever reason those warnings were ignored. Any attempts to place blame on a lack of federal response are simply partisan bull shit with the information available to date.