Vikings 2022 Draft Class - How are they doing?
Original Picks
Round 1: No. 12
Round 2: No. 46
Round 3: No. 77
Round 5: No. 156 (from Ravens)
Round 6: Nos. 184 (from Jets), 191 (from Ravens through Chiefs), 192
Round 7: No. 250 (from 49ers through Broncos)Chaos
1. Lewis Cine: Safety, Georgia, Round 1, Pick 32 (From Trade with Detroit)
2. Andrew Booth: Cornerback, Clemson, Round 2, Pick 42 (Pick 34 we got from Detroit traded to GB for 53rd pick when we traded to Colts for 42 and 122)
3. Ed Ingram: Guard, LSU, Round 2, Pick 59 (Pick 34 we got from Detroit traded to GB for 53rd and 59th picks)
4. Brian Asamoah: Linebacker, Oklahoma, Round 3, Pick 66 (from Detroit)
5. Akayleb Evans: Cornerback, Missouri, Round 4, Pick 118 (from trading pick 156 with Cleveland)
6. Esezi Otomewo: Defensive Tackle, Minnesota, Round 5, Pick 165 (From trade with Colts which was traded to Vegas for 165 and 169)
7. Ty Chandler: Running Back, North Carolina, Round 5, Pick 169 (From trade with Colts which was traded to Vegas for 165 and 169)
8. Vederian Lowe: Offensive Line, Illinois, Round 6, Pick 184
9. Jalen Nailor: Wide Receiver, Michigan State, Round 6, Pick 191 (Trade with Chiefs for Mike Hughes)
10. Nick Muse: Tight End, South Carolina, Round 7, Pick 227 (Traded 122 to Vegas for 126 and 227) All said and done we end up with (still on the team):
Pick 59: Ed Ingram (RG):
Pick 66: Brian Asamoah (LILB2)
Pick 42: Nahshon Wright (CB): Practice Squad (Andrew Boothe Jr traded to Dallas)
Pick 169: Ty Chandler (RB2)
Pick 181: Akayleb Evans (CB2)
Pick 191: Jalen Nailor (WR3)
Pick 227: Nick Muse (TE): IR
So does having 5 players that contribute every Sunday as bad as it originally looked? The question is not what we would/ could have had but if the 2022 draft help make the team better?
Ingram is a replacement level player at this point. Evans has seen his playing time decrease exponentially since his rookie year. Asamoah has been nothing but a backup. Nailor has been hurt and is only now making an impact this season. Chandler is a good #2 RB.
I look at our 2022 draft as we drafted one starter (Ingram) and have 2-3 depth players.
It was not an impactful draft short-term and does not appear to be long-term either. Ingram likely doesn't get a second contract. Evans and Asamoah won't get second contracts. Chandler might
MAD GAINZ wrote:
Ingram is a replacement level player at this point. Evans has seen his playing time decrease exponentially since his rookie year. Asamoah has been nothing but a backup. Nailor has been hurt and is only now making an impact this season. Chandler is a good #2 RB.I look at our 2022 draft as we drafted one starter (Ingram) and have 2-3 depth players.
It was not an impactful draft short-term and does not appear to be long-term either. Ingram likely doesn't get a second contract. Evans and Asamoah won't get second contracts. Chandler might
I think Speedy and Chandler are the only ones that possibly could be extended past their rookie contract...and Nailor only if he can finally stay healthy. Given we had stockpiled 10 picks...that's not a great draft to end up with a backup RB and a #3/#4 receiver past their rookie deals. On further review, yep...that draft still sucks.
Any time your 1st and 2nd rounder fail, it's a bad draft. We had a lot of picks and only Nailor and Chandler look like hits to me. Although you can make an argument any time you get a starter for three years running (Ingram), you'll take it. It's not our best draft, but it's far from our worst. 2010, 11, 12, 16, 17, 18 and 19 were worse in terms of the number of contributors.
MaroonBells wrote:
Any time your 1st and 2nd rounder fail, it's a bad draft. We had a lot of picks and only Nailor and Chandler look like hits to me. Although you can make an argument any time you get a starter for three years running (Ingram), you'll take it. It's not our best draft, but it's far from our worst. 2010, 11, 12, 16, 17, 18 and 19 were worse in terms of the number of contributors.
Of all Viking starters on offense and defense, who's the worst of the bunch? That's a pretty simple answer for me....Ingram. So..with 3 picks in the first two rounds and 10 overall...that's what we end up with? KAM clearly wasn't ready for primetime during the first draft. I don't know if he's that good on the fly. He (and the scouts) have done better with signing vets which frankly has been the saving grace as has his ability to seemingly cut players loose at the right time.
I think I read where 7 of our 11 starters on defense are on 1 year contracts? ITs going to be a roster more skewed to FA's than say GB for a while.
KAM looks to be improving on draft day, but next year isnt the year where the team will get a lot younger, not with 2 or 3 picks.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
Selling the bottom end of a draft cuz all the top picks go down in flames is a tall order. You need to hit in rounds 1/2 to really build long-term because that's where the top talent lies for the most part. I'll give the new regime a mulligan for it, since they've improved the team regardless at this point.
MaroonBells wrote:
Any time your 1st and 2nd rounder fail, it's a bad draft. We had a lot of picks and only Nailor and Chandler look like hits to me. Although you can make an argument any time you get a starter for three years running (Ingram), you'll take it. It's not our best draft, but it's far from our worst. 2010, 11, 12, 16, 17, 18 and 19 were worse in terms of the number of contributors.
This is what I was alluding to (contributors from the draft). Thank you for stating it so clearly
badgervike wrote:
Of all Viking starters on offense and defense, who's the worst of the bunch? That's a pretty simple answer for me....Ingram. So..with 3 picks in the first two rounds and 10 overall...that's what we end up with? KAM clearly wasn't ready for primetime during the first draft. I don't know if he's that good on the fly. He (and the scouts) have done better with signing vets which frankly has been the saving grace as has his ability to seemingly cut players loose at the right time.
Hasn't Ed Ingram been playing and grading well so far?
mblack wrote:
This is what I was alluding to (contributors from the draft). Thank you for stating it so clearly
Hasn't Ed Ingram been playing and grading well so far?
He graded out well this week but I've always been skeptical of PFF grades for olinemen since they don't know the assignments. I know he had a 9.3 pass blocking grade against Lawrence and the Gmen.
mblack wrote:
This is what I was alluding to (contributors from the draft). Thank you for stating it so clearly
Hasn't Ed Ingram been playing and grading well so far?
not really. anytime I see Darnold get pressured, its a pretty safe bet its Ingram or Bradbury, hell Ingram should have gotten half credit for a sack a few weeks ago, it was his guy that blew right through him to pressure SD and eventually get the sack, but it was Ingram wandering around lost and knocking into SD that allowed the pressure to become a sack.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
purplefaithful wrote:
I think I read where 7 of our 11 starters on defense are on 1 year contracts? ITs going to be a roster more skewed to FA's than say GB for a while.KAM looks to be improving on draft day, but next year isnt the year where the team will get a lot younger, not with 2 or 3 picks.
Off the top of my head... We just extended Phillips and Greenard, Van Ginkel, and Cashman were 2+ year deals. Pace is only in the second year of his rookie deal. Dallas Turner is a rookie.
But Gilmore, Murphy, and Shaq are all 1-yr deals. Harrison Smith and Bynum are in the last year of their deals. I think Bullard was one year. Patrick Jones is in the last year not his rookie deal IIRC. So yeah, our whole secondary and one of our four top pass rushers could all leave/retire next year.
Damn. Why did you bring this up purplefaithful? Lol
MAD GAINZ wrote:
Off the top of my head... We just extended Phillips and Greenard, Van Ginkel, and Cashman were 2+ year deals. Pace is only in the second year of his rookie deal. Dallas Turner is a rookie.
But Gilmore, Murphy, and Shaq are all 1-yr deals. Harrison Smith and Bynum are in the last year of their deals. I think Bullard was one year. Patrick Jones is in the last year not his rookie deal IIRC. So yeah, our whole secondary and one of our four top pass rushers could all leave/retire next year.
Damn. Why did you bring this up purplefaithful? Lol
Just keeping it real ;)
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
MAD GAINZ wrote:
But Gilmore, Murphy, and Shaq are all 1-yr deals. Harrison Smith and Bynum are in the last year of their deals. I think Bullard was one year. Patrick Jones is in the last year not his rookie deal IIRC. So yeah, our whole secondary and one of our four top pass rushers could all leave/retire next year.
Bynum is going to be a must sign, I think he loves it here and seems like a pretty loyal guy, he is going to get paid, but think he will want to make it work here and not shop highest bidder. I do not think they would resign Murphy. Gilmore and Shaq will be tough calls, I could see one of them coming back, we get Blackmon back next year and think CB will be a draft priority. Hope to see McGlothern get some playing time at some point. If Jones sack numbers continue to climb, think he is going to be in play for a decent pay day and will want to go somewhere where he will be a top guy.
I’m a big fan of KAM, but I won’t defend that draft.
To OP- Are these 2022 guys playing some because they’re good, or are they playing because they’re who we have on cheap contracts? I’m sure the team would love to upgrade all of these roles but with the way the cap works, a lot of young guys hang around if they know the system and are cheap. It will be interesting to see if any of them get second contracts here.
pattersaur wrote:
I’m a big fan of KAM, but I won’t defend that draft.To OP- Are these 2022 guys playing some because they’re good, or are they playing because they’re who we have on cheap contracts? I’m sure the team would love to upgrade all of these roles but with the way the cap works, a lot of young guys hang around if they know the system and are cheap. It will be interesting to see if any of them get second contracts here.
I am not defending him. That was me trying to do a "review" :)
To your question:
I think it is in between. They can get the job done but also can be upgraded. I am sure the upgrade line applies for 60% plus of NFL players. The ideal state is find good enough players to win yet on cheap. We want a solid all around team with a few impact players and not a collection of superstars that get us nowhere and being in cap hell.
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