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KOC & FLO

purplefaithful
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Are really cementing themselves as top tier teachers, HC and Coordinator...

If Darnold can continue to play at this level? It will be awfully good for him next year in a big $ contract and what a feather in O'Connells cap. '

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#1 · Sep 22, 5:09 PM
Kentis
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Sounds like a porno title… :P

#2 · Sep 22, 5:21 PM
Vikergirl
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Both are doing a phenomenal job. KOC got a run game and BFlo got more talent to work with. And Sam Darnold? Seriously come on now? Dude is having a career renaissance

You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. — Robin Williams

#3 · Sep 22, 5:35 PM
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Vikergirl wrote:
Both are doing a phenomenal job. KOC got a run game and BFlo got more talent to work with. And Sam Darnold? Seriously come on now? Dude is having a career renaissance

I'll be honest. When he got hurt I thought the season was over.

#4 · Sep 22, 9:02 PM
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hogjowlsjohnny wrote:

I'll be honest. When he got hurt I thought the season was over.

Yep, silence washed over our household too…!!! 

#5 · Sep 23, 12:06 PM
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hogjowlsjohnny wrote:

I'll be honest. When he got hurt I thought the season was over.

US Bank Stadium collectively held our breath. It was like are you fucking kidding me. Then he came back out to elation from the crowd

You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. — Robin Williams

#6 · Sep 23, 12:10 PM
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Vikergirl wrote:

US Bank Stadium collectively held our breath. It was like are you fucking kidding me. Then he came back out to elation from the crowd

Yeah, that crowd reaction was special. It's something Darnold hasn't heard much of in his pro career. Should be a confidence booster.

#7 · Sep 23, 2:19 PM
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You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. — Robin Williams

#8 · Sep 23, 2:22 PM
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Sam Darnold’s resurgence under Kevin O’Connell shouldn’t be a surprise

The Vikings coach has done this with quarterbacks before — first with Matthew Stafford and then with Kirk Cousins. The only question left to answer is how good Darnold can be.

Sam Darnold may never pass this way again.

But his coach has been here before.

Darnold has just completed the best three-game stretch of his career. He leads the NFL in passing touchdowns with eight, and is one of the major reasons the Vikings are tied for the best record and have the second-best point differential in the NFL after three weeks.

His might be the best story in the NFL, a story that was preserved when, on Monday, the Vikings announced that he suffered only a bruised left knee against the Texans and should be able to practice fully this week and play at Green Bay on Sunday.

Because Darnold has previously displayed spurts of competence, the key to his story in 2024 might not be who he is, but for whom he plays.

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Darnold is one of two quarterbacks in the Super Bowl era to produce two or more passing touchdowns while winning each of his first three games with a team.

The other?

The Rams’ Matthew Stafford in 2021.

The offensive coordinator of the Rams that season?

Kevin O’Connell, the current coach of the Vikings.

In Stafford’s first three games with the Rams, he produced nine touchdowns, threw one interception, and completed 70.2% of his passes for 942 yards. He took three sacks and rushed nine times for minus-6 yards.

In Darnold’s first three games with the Vikings, he has thrown eight touchdown passes and two interceptions while completing 67.9% of his passes for 657 yards. He has taken eight sacks and rushed eight times for 35 yards.

Stafford was even more efficient and productive than Darnold, but Stafford had been an entrenched starter with the Lions before being traded to the Rams, and joined a team with high expectations.

Darnold was considered a draft bust who signed with Minnesota to keep the pocket warm for first-round draft pick J.J. McCarthy.

The true measure of Darnold’s emergence this season was the crowd reaction on Sunday at U.S. Bank Stadium, as the Vikings moved to 3-0 with a 34-7 victory over a quality Houston Texans team.

When Darnold grabbed his left leg and topped over, there were loud groans. When he returned to the field after missing one play, the crowd gave him an ovation and chanted his name. Darnold would say that the reaction meant “everything to him.”

How does Darnold’s three-game stretch of excellence compare to the other quality stretches in his career?

There have been four.

As a rookie, in 2018, he was fairly efficient in Weeks 4 through 6, completing 59.3% of his passes with six touchdowns and two interceptions for a terrible Jets team.

In 2019, Darnold regained the starting job with the Jets, and in the last three games of the season completed 60.6% of his passes, with four touchdowns and two interceptions, while winning the last two games.

As the Panthers’ starter at the beginning of the 2021 season, Darnold, in the first three games, completed 68% with three touchdowns and one interception as the Panthers started 3-0.

Late in the 2022 season, Darnold regained the Panthers’ starting job, and in Games 14-16, completed 63% of his passes with five touchdowns and one interception.

Optimists noted that Darnold had never played for an outstanding offensive coaching staff or with a receiver like Justin Jefferson before. The optimists, for once, were right.

Through three games, Darnold looks like a quality NFL quarterback in an ideal situation. He has excelled even with injuries to two of his three top receivers, No. 2 wideout Jordan Addison and tight end T.J. Hockenson.

For quarterbacks on good teams, the challenges only become more daunting.

Can Sammy September become Mr. October?

Is it possible that, given O’Connell’s work with Stafford and Kirk Cousins, the best is yet to come for Sam Darnold and the Vikings?

Source: Startribune

edited Sep 23, 2024 8:23 PM

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#9 · Sep 23, 8:23 PM
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StickierBuns wrote:

Interesting point: Vikings could go .500 the rest of the way and would still finish 10-7.

#10 · Sep 24, 8:47 AM
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StickierBuns wrote:

Starting out strong gives a team such a big head start on making the playoffs. Can lose some and be okay.

That 2016 Vikings season still looms out there.... we started 5-0 only to finish 8-8.  It seems like we started 6-0 in 2003 or 2004...only to finish 9-7.  For this season, it's a fantastic start particularly with the strength of schedule and unknown at QB.  Many would have been ecstatic with a 3-2 start to the season.  We had a fair amount of discussions about the daunting schedule before the bye.

Hopefully, we have the horses to get us to the finish line.

#11 · Sep 24, 9:29 AM
Montana Tom
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Interesting observation. The season we went 13-4 (with 11 one-score wins), and fell to the Giants in the first round...it was pointed out that the 2022 squad was flawed (in his opinion). This roster does not have the same flaws, and we're missing a lot of talent...mentioned specifically was Mekhi Beckham, Jordan Addison, Ivan Pace Jr, TJ Hockenson, but not mentioned were Dallas Turner, JJM, Nick Muse, Gabe Murphy (PS)...I am simply not prepared to hear good or optimistic news about m Vikings! It sounds like they are talking about some other team (or even sport).

#12 · Sep 24, 11:43 AM
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