Vikings sign Rypien, waive Hall

I did not see that coming. I thought Jaren Hall acquitted himself well in the past two pre-season games. I assume if he clears waivers, he will be signed to the PS and they will cut someone else at the bottom?

Can probably get the some Bears intel from Rypien. I like that our QB3 has some experience in a similar offense (Rams in 2023), but it looked to me like Hall had turned a corner. Maybe this is more about Hall's injury. I guess it's also possible that if he clears waivers we can put him on the PS.

...wow...?!

I've always kinda liked Rypien, because he reminds me of his Uncle, who made me think of a more-successful Joe Kapp: tough, more determined than flashy, will absolutely kill himself to get the yards needed despite lacking elite talent.

I thought Hall looked a lot better in recent action, but that was against 'scrubs', and he's got an injury, so...obviously, I defer to the team's wisdom.

I guess the only way this makes sense if Hall’s leg injury is much more serious than anticipated and they need to get a 3rd guy on the roster. I don’t know much about Rypien but his stats don’t look good and his pff grade isn’t good, so I can’t imagine that they think they are upgrading here. Was there not any way to put Rypien on the practice squad?

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After the initial shock, I kinda get why Kwesi is gambling here.

1. They obviously like Brett Rypien

2. If a team claims Jaren Hall, they HAVE to place him on their 53

3. Teams already set their 53 and practice squads. Do you want to reshuffle for Jaren Hall?

4. KOC really played up the Hall injury vs Eagles. You want to burn a 53 spot on an injured player?

5. If (when?) Hall goes unclaimed, they can put him on the PS and protect him from being poached all season (teams can protect up to 4 players on PS per week)

I don’t agree with the gamble. But I can see the calculated risk for Kwesi.

Well, I was waiting for a big move...

MaroonBells wrote:
Purple FTW! Podcast @PurpleForTheWin After the initial shock, I kinda get why Kwesi is gambling here.

1. They obviously like Brett Rypien

2. If a team claims Jaren Hall, they HAVE to place him on their 53

3. Teams already set their 53 and practice squads. Do you want to reshuffle for Jaren Hall?

4. KOC really played up the Hall injury vs Eagles. You want to burn a 53 spot on an injured player?

5. If (when?) Hall goes unclaimed, they can put him on the PS and protect him from being poached all season (teams can protect up to 4 players on PS per week)

I don’t agree with the gamble. But I can see the calculated risk for Kwesi.

I don't really understand how this is a "gamble".  Rypien is an older shitty QB.  He's everything that people dislike about Hall, but with less potential.  It's all the risk and none of the rewards.

What evidence is there that they like Rypien?  Doesn't seem so obvious.  It feels like a lot of people out there are just making snap judgements here based on Rypian in, Hall out and saying rationalizations.  I don't know how us in the cheap seats can differentiate between the team liking Rypien more than Hall and Hall being hurt and needing to get a replacement.

medaille wrote:

I don't really understand how this is a "gamble".  Rypien is an older shitty QB.  He's everything that people dislike about Hall, but with less potential.  It's all the risk and none of the rewards.

What evidence is there that they like Rypien?  Doesn't seem so obvious.  It feels like a lot of people out there are just making snap judgements here based on Rypian in, Hall out and saying rationalizations.  I don't know how us in the cheap seats can differentiate between the team liking Rypien more than Hall and Hall being hurt and needing to get a replacement.

We save like a mil against the cap by doing this too I believe. Maybe Zygi needs a new sports car.

purplefaithful wrote:
Well, I was waiting for a big move...

And still waiting...

Hall made the 53 but probably isn't healthy enough to be a back up in game one. Only thing that makes sense to me. He won't likely get poached. I expect him to be back on the 53 when healthy and Rypien to be gone.

StickierBuns wrote:
Not really sure what this exactly means, but, lol....

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Kevin O'Connell said he still believes Jaren Hall will be here "for a long-term process." Adding Brett Rypien as QB3 gives them a better "short-term" outlook "knowing what we went through" in starting four QBs last season.

Your guess is as good as mine. I don't try to parse KOC word salad, it's a waste of time. There's a Rams connection to Rypien - maybe KOC just wants his comfort zone guys. Not sure how this fits with his alleged ability to develop qb's.

If Sam Darnold plays like he always has we are bottom-5 qb room in this league. Not that Hall would have made any difference, but if I have to watch the team suck I'd rather watch a young kid trying to make something of himself than journeyman garbage haulers like Darnold, Mullens and Rypien. But whatever, the third guy isn't getting on the field unless the first two guys are injured anyway.

I dont think Hall would be ready to step-in soon due to the leg injury.

KOC still suffering from PTSD from the QB Carousel in 23.

StickierBuns wrote:

I think the Vikings are done. This is it. Getting Gilmore was the last big swing for 2024, and that was pure necessity. Totally fine with it all, keep those eyeballs on 2025 where they belong.

Agreed...

We're going to roll with what we got. 

Lots of unknowns going into this season, more than I can remember for a while. 

Hope 24 is a blast for SKOL Nation.

StickierBuns wrote:
Not really sure what this exactly means, but, lol....

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Kevin O'Connell said he still believes Jaren Hall will be here "for a long-term process." Adding Brett Rypien as QB3 gives them a better "short-term" outlook "knowing what we went through" in starting four QBs last season.

Like if they want to have 4 QBs on the roster/practice squad, I’m all for that plan.  That said, I still think it’s a risk to have a promising QB on the practice squad with how easy it is to poach a player.  I’m not sure that I agree that Rypien gives them a “better short term outlook” than Hall, but I think they might be forced to add Rypien to the active roster, and the only way to get him on the roster is to send Hall to practice squad.

Is Mullens getting shopped around?

We have our QB of the future in JJM, so they may have been thinking they did not need another developmental QB, however, let's say Hall has to play for some reason and does well, then we would have a potential valuable trade chip. Think there is more value with Hall. I do not see in 2024 what Rypien brings to us that we do not have in Mullens/Hall.

medaille wrote:

Like if they want to have 4 QBs on the roster/practice squad, I’m all for that plan.  That said, I still think it’s a risk to have a promising QB on the practice squad with how easy it is to poach a player.  I’m not sure that I agree that Rypien gives them a “better short term outlook” than Hall, but I think they might be forced to add Rypien to the active roster, and the only way to get him on the roster is to send Hall to practice squad.

Any team poaching him would have to immediately put him on the 53 man roster, is he really promising enough that a team is going to cut an active player to add a third string QB? Lets be real, prior to the last two weeks the majority of fans wouldn't have given a flying fart about him being cut. He has a few good preseason games against scrubs and he's the next training camp superstar. That said, I'm not advocating for him needing to go or that I like the move. But the handwringing over a backups backup has been interesting to say the least.

Ummm....Hate to be the one to point this out, but didn't Risner have some sideline altercation / issue with Rypien when they were with the Bronco's?

bigbone62 wrote:

Any team poaching him would have to immediately put him on the 53 man roster, is he really promising enough that a team is going to cut an active player to add a third string QB? Lets be real, prior to the last two weeks the majority of fans wouldn't have given a flying fart about him being cut. He has a few good preseason games against scrubs and he's the next training camp superstar. That said, I'm not advocating for him needing to go or that I like the move. But the handwringing over a backups backup has been interesting to say the least.

Completely agree. I also don't think I'd classify Hall as, "promising". The team knows what they're risking by doing this, and they're still doing it. So they must not believe they're wagering all that much.

bigbone62 wrote:

Any team poaching him would have to immediately put him on the 53 man roster, is he really promising enough that a team is going to cut an active player to add a third string QB? Lets be real, prior to the last two weeks the majority of fans wouldn't have given a flying fart about him being cut. He has a few good preseason games against scrubs and he's the next training camp superstar. That said, I'm not advocating for him needing to go or that I like the move. But the handwringing over a backups backup has been interesting to say the least.

I think it's more likely that a team has only 2 QBs, one gets injured, and they might bring in a Hall type guy to be the backup for a period of time.  I don't think it's hand-wringing as much as it is "WTF is this?" when your QB was promising and they replaced him with a guy who's the same caliber but with more bad tape and with less potential for growth.

Vanguard83 wrote:
Ummm....Hate to be the one to point this out, but didn't Risner have some sideline altercation / issue with Rypien when they were with the Bronco's?

You are correct