Booth traded to Dallas..

Yah...I'm ready to put em both in the rear view mirror.

Wish we would have gotten a late pick instead, basically looks like we just traded for his counterpart. Interesting that Zimmer would want him. He is Blackmon's cousin, so maybe that was a factor from an intel perspective.

Well let's also not forget that we traded down with Green Bay who took Christian Watson, while the Vikings used those two Packers picks on Andrew Booth and Ed Ingram (insert vomit emoji here).

Brings me back to the infamous Kwesi draft day quote, "Well those teams (Lions and Packers) are going to have to play us too." 2022 is shaping up to be the worst draft in team history

Booth is always hurt and Flores apparently likes long corners (RIP Khyree) so maybe this will work out for us? Even if it doesn't, it was time to move on. Like Cine, if you can't crack the starting lineup as an early round pick by your 3rd year, it's likely not going to happen.

Nearly cemented as a poor draft by Kwesi although no one really complained about the people drafted as most had them rated in or near the rounds they went.

Only coulda woulda shoulda that is valid is consensus all world pick Hamilton, whom our own Vike Gura said did not fit our defense.

The Wilfs decided to go with someone with no GM experience, but possibly some upside over someone with more current experience. The past two drafts seemed to be much better, so maybe the first one was part of the growing pains of that decision. Personally, I was not a fan of the Kwesi move for that reason, at the NFL level, I prefer not to have someone learning on the job. Ultimately, JJM will decide Kwesi's legacy with the team more so than that first draft.

supafreak84 wrote:
Well let's also not forget that we traded down with Green Bay who took Christian Watson, while the Vikings used those two Packers picks on Andrew Booth and Ed Ingram (insert vomit emoji here).

Brings me back to the infamous Kwesi draft day quote, "Well those teams (Lions and Packers) are going to have to play us too." 2022 is shaping up to be the worst draft in team history

I would not necessarily agree with that.  
The worst draft in team history would probably include Dimitrius Underwood (1999, although the same draft yielded Culpepper), or the next year...Chris Hovan from BC?  Ugh.   Or 2005...Erasmus James and Troy Williamson?

Maybe I should reframe this as "worst first/early round picks"?
When you go back in the years, there sure were some boneheaded picks (like picking diminutive Michael Bennett when Marcus Allen was still on the board).  So nobody is above reproach here, and I'm sure it's hit and miss on all other franchises as well.

JR44 wrote:
The Wilfs decided to go with someone with no GM experience, but possibly some upside over someone with more current experience.  The past two drafts seemed to be much better, so maybe the first one was part of the growing pains of that decision.  Personally, I was not a fan of the Kwesi move for that reason, at the NFL level, I prefer not to have someone learning on the job.  Ultimately, JJM will decide Kwesi's legacy with the team more so than that first draft.

I would have felt more comfortable going with somebody that had GM experience too. 

Hopefully 22 was the steep learning curve and wont be repeated. 

I also agree that the KAM/KOC legacy will be built on the success of JJM and not the 22 draft.

I like Wright's tangibles better than booth. Watching some of his Oregon State highlights...he sure has a long reach at 6'4" (vs Booth at 6')

Bullazin wrote:
Nearly cemented as a poor draft by Kwesi although no one really complained about the people drafted as most had them rated in or near the rounds they went.

Only coulda woulda shoulda that is valid is consensus all world pick Hamilton, whom our own Vike Gura said did not fit our defense.

You mean the _onnatell defense that was scrapped after one historically bad season? This is a great example of why you always just take the best player instead of drafting for scheme because schemes change from one year to the next routinely

I'm not going to lie. I was fairly high on Booth when he came out and thought he'd be a really good player for us. Former 5 star guy out of HS, played well at Clemson, had some injury issues that were my only concern. I believe those injury issues were the only reason he slid into the 2nd round. Goes to show what a crapshoot the draft can be.

JR44 wrote:
The Wilfs decided to go with someone with no GM experience, but possibly some upside over someone with more current experience.  The past two drafts seemed to be much better, so maybe the first one was part of the growing pains of that decision.  Personally, I was not a fan of the Kwesi move for that reason, at the NFL level, I prefer not to have someone learning on the job.  Ultimately, JJM will decide Kwesi's legacy with the team more so than that first draft.

That's certainly one way to look at it. Another would be the 22 draft was done with the previous regimes scouting department. And with significant input from a veteran defensive coordinator who was bounced after a year. 

A defensive coordinator who ran a completely different scheme than currently run. Thus the Cine/Booth were square pegs in a round hole scheme wise. This was the first draft run entirely by the scouting department composed of KAM's people and heavily influenced by the current DC. As we saw in various draft day videos.bFood for thought, if Flores was the DC in 22 might we have seen Hamilton selected?

bigbone62 wrote:

That's certainly one way to look at it. Another would be the 22 draft was done with the previous regimes scouting department. And with significant input from a veteran defensive coordinator who was bounced after a year. 

A defensive coordinator who ran a completely different scheme than currently run. Thus the Vibe/Booth were square pegs in a round hole scheme wise. This was the first draft run entirely by the scouting department composed of KAM's people and heavily influenced by the current DC. As we saw in various draft day videos.bFood for thought, if Flores was the DC in 22 might we have seen Hamilton selected?

I agree and I thought that was the case in regards to the scouting dept at the time. Either way we cut it or point fingers, it was a terrible draft and hopefully not to be repeated again for a while.

I’m guessing that Flores is the one that give the ok for the trade. And Kwesi just approved it.
Wright has better height than Booth and I think he played a lot of ST for Dallas.
Probably the last chance and a new start for both players.

The 22 draft would have been much better for us if we just let Mel Kiper make our picks

I'd rather have gotten a 2025 pick, but I get that Flores needs CB bodies period right now and Wright has the right physique.

Whether he has a clue remains to be seen.

P.S.: Saw a vid about the trade on Youtube and Wright has played quite a few ST snaps. That might help his case.

Heard someone suggest Wright could be our Najee Thompson replacement. I agree. Hope his injury isn't too severe, but he's been out all summer and the opener is now in question.

supafreak84 wrote:

You mean the _onnatell defense that was scrapped after one historically bad season? This is a great example of why you always just take the best player instead of drafting for scheme because schemes change from one year to the next routinely

You don’t change schemes when you are having success, and that is what good organizations do, plan for success.  Donatell had a decent track record, but the Vikes obviously settled when hiring him. 

There were a few hollering for Hamilton, but very few. If you redo that draft, several teams missed on him.

purplefaithful wrote:

I agree and I thought that was the case in regards to the scouting dept at the time. Either way we cut it or point fingers, it was a terrible draft and hopefully not to be repeated again for a while.

But pointing fingers and complaining bitterly is so much fun! It’s almost like it’s become a safe space for half the country!

Bullazin wrote:

You don’t change schemes when you are having success, and that is what good organizations do, plan for success.  Donatell had a decent track record, but the Vikes obviously settled when hiring him. 

There were a few hollering for Hamilton, but very few. If you redo that draft, several teams missed on him.

But pointing fingers and complaining bitterly is so much fun! It’s almost like it’s become a safe space for half the country!

Donatell was not good anywhere in prior stops and his historically bad defense was predictable. So number one, hiring him was a huge mistake, and number two, planning your draft around players who may have fit his lousy scheme was an even bigger mistake. Donatell was gone after one season while we are still stuck with Cine, Asamoah, etc.