KOC: "JJM wearing us out", got work with 1st team offense
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Per HC Kevin O’Connell (on the Rich Eisen Show)
QB J.J. McCarthy has confirmed a lot of the things the #Vikings thought about him throughout the pre-draft process and then some:
“Everything so far, we had hoped to get out of J.J. from the spring confirming a lot of the things we thought about him throughout the pre-draft process. He’s done all those things and then some. He’s been wearing us out at the facilities working his tail off, and I think he’s gonna be in a great spot to continue his growth and development.”
HC Kevin O’Connell says #Vikings rookie QB J.J. McCarthy HAS gotten some work with the first team offense:
“He’s had a great spring. He’s off to a really good start. You know transitioning into a new offense a bunch of new teammates, new players, he gets a ton of work throughout routes on air and even in 7 on 7, you know where we were going full speed on all that stuff with some of the first group throughout the spring”
QB J.J. McCarthy has confirmed a lot of the things the #Vikings thought about him throughout the pre-draft process and then some:
“Everything so far, we had hoped to get out of J.J. from the spring confirming a lot of the things we thought about him throughout the pre-draft process. He’s done all those things and then some. He’s been wearing us out at the facilities working his tail off, and I think he’s gonna be in a great spot to continue his growth and development.”
HC Kevin O’Connell says #Vikings rookie QB J.J. McCarthy HAS gotten some work with the first team offense:
“He’s had a great spring. He’s off to a really good start. You know transitioning into a new offense a bunch of new teammates, new players, he gets a ton of work throughout routes on air and even in 7 on 7, you know where we were going full speed on all that stuff with some of the first group throughout the spring”
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MaroonBells wrote:
I watched the whole interview with KOC and came away a little more convinced of two things. That McCarthy was the right pick and that he'll sit the whole season.
....and JJM is the man regardless of how Darnold does.
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MAD GAINZ wrote:
I honestly think it's about a 1% chance Darnold has an All-Pro year guys. It's fun to hypothesize, but why waste the energy on this?
Best case scenario, we have an Alex Smith/Mahomes situation where Darnold plays well, defense and special teams are good, and we're in the playoff hunt. JJM takes over in 2025 and we never look back. The coaches are going to see JJM every day in practice and have a good idea of where he's at in his progression over the course of his rookie season.
If he's on track where they KNOW he's the guy and is ready to rock in 2025, it won't matter how well Darnold plays in 2024. The Vikings will be happy to get a comp pick from another team that signs him to a long-term deal and move forward with the plan that JJ is our long-term QB.
Worst case scenario, Darnold is the Darnold we saw in New York and Carolina and JJM either doesn't look ready or the Vikings feel he may not be "the guy", then we're probably in Chicago's shoes looking to move him and take another stab at the top of the draft.
There's obviously a big gray area in between all that, but debating the extremes seems like a waste of time.
At the end of the day, we should all be hoping Darnold plays well enough for this to be an enjoyable season and give the coaches the luxury of starting JJ when they "think" he's ready. Not because we're bottomed out and feel pressure to start the young guy. Getting JJM on the field before he's ready is about the worst thing we could do. I'm as anxious as anyone to see the kid play, but I'm not interested in rushing the kid out there before he's comfortable.
Totally agree. Hypotheticals and what ifs on extremely low probabilities (Darnold being All Pro) is wasted energy when they've just drafted a QB #10 overall. Can Darnold play decently? Certainly. And I hope he does for a fun season.
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purplefaithful wrote:
RC caught lightning in a bottle and I still remember to this day watching him pass Randy Moss his first TD vs T.Bay.
I am not sure Brad would have had the same impact over that magical season. We'll never know. RC let me down in the NFCCG too. I was in the sign him again in 99.
It'll be fun to watch the story of Darnold play out in 24. So many directions this could go!
It was a tough spot for Green. Letting Cunningham go would have caused riots in the Twin Cities streets with the season they had in '98. Randal's arm brought 100% fear to defenses because it maximized Moss's deep abilities and hence the offense was completely wide open. No way Johnson would have had the year that Cunningham did.
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MaroonBells wrote:
I disagree. You adjust the offense to the QB. It would've been a different offense, but maybe no less effective. Remember, before he was hurt, Johnson threw 4 TDs in the opener against Tampa, two of which come on deep passes to Randy.
Even though I wanted them to go back to Brad, it's not hard to understand why the Vikings stuck with RC even after Johnson returned to health. You go with the hot hand. But there was always a feeling of instability, at least with me. And I think that showed up a bit in the NFCC when RC melted down before the half.
It was one game with Johnson.....and on one TD to Moss, the first one, he badly under threw it. To say the offense would be just as effective with Brad's noodle arm is something I couldn't disagree with more.
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Per #Vikings HC Kevin O'Connell via
@SKORNorth
, there's no specific date, game, or time ticking down as to when J.J. McCarthy will take over as QB1 ?
O'Connell also noted how important he is to the organization and how well he's performed this offseason.
“There's no clock in the corner of the room that is ticking down to a specific date, or game, or things like that. It's about our team, but also [J.J. McCarthy] is very important to me and very important to our organization, and my experiences tell me for a lot of reasons that our plan for him is in place for a reason and we feel really good about it."
@SKORNorth
, there's no specific date, game, or time ticking down as to when J.J. McCarthy will take over as QB1 ?
O'Connell also noted how important he is to the organization and how well he's performed this offseason.
“There's no clock in the corner of the room that is ticking down to a specific date, or game, or things like that. It's about our team, but also [J.J. McCarthy] is very important to me and very important to our organization, and my experiences tell me for a lot of reasons that our plan for him is in place for a reason and we feel really good about it."
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MaroonBells wrote:
Therein lies the rub. Take a short-term deal and continue with the offense that saved your career? Or take the big money and long-term contract and risk becoming Bad Sam again? I think you're probably right tho. He'd see the trade winds blowing in Minnesota and take the money, thinking Bad Sam is gone forever and Fixed Sam can now play well in any offense.
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J.J. McCarthy did not get much time with Justin Jefferson at mini-camp last week -- "I think I might have thrown one ball to him," he said -- but important to note the Vikings put McCarthy's locker right next to Jefferson's. "It's nice to get those off-the-field interactions."
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J.J. McCarthy on this spring: "I always try to be better tomorrow than I am today. Of course, growth is not a straight line. It goes up, it goes down, it goes up, it goes down. But I'm trying to maintain that trajectory of going up and up. I feel like I'm on that."
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McCarthy on accepting the dips in that trajectory: "You have to. They're inevitable. Failure is inevitable in sports. You've just go to learn from them and learn from those little dips and not be attached to them emotionally. That's what I've been working on."
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