What concerns me about the JJ McCarthy pick
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[*]He'll be an accurate enough passer to be a great NFL QB.
[*]That, despite current assurances from KOC, he won't get the required time to learn as a non-starter....he needs it IMO.
[*]Needs to learn to progress through that first read and find the secondary, etc. progressions.
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He's got some outstanding strengths and I've probably said them ad nauseam. But these are the legit concerns as I see them. Obviously the coaching staffs knows this and more, has a plan and will work that plan to provide a successful entry into the NFL for him. But the best laid plans of mice and men.....fingers crossed.
Vanguard83 wrote:
Saw they were working on his "footwork" - I often wonder how much focus should be spent on "re-learning" spent on mechanics. In my mind if the kid can sling the rock, who gives a flyin' F - Learn the offense, get your reps, watch tape, work your progressions. Like trying to learn how to write left handed when you've been writing with your right - But my wife tells me I'm wrong about so much, I'm most likely wrong here too.
Saw that article: talk about being an offseason, B.S. piece. It talked about when he's in the shotgun and having his left foot slightly in front of the other instead of both feet the same. LMAO. And you've got a guy like Drake Maye who's never called plays in the huddle and rarely taken snaps from under center. These 'reporters' get a nugget and act like its noteworthy.
NorseFeathers wrote:
I say this being completely nonjudgmental, but his bout with depression is the only thing that concerns me. This coming from personal experience, that being introspective and self-aware is mostly a good thing, but it can steer you off course when you least expect it. Otherwise, I think he's got all of the tools, both tangible and intangible, and I'm glad he's a Viking. I look forward to cheering for him.
https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/michigan-football-wolverines-jj-mccarthy-mental-health-big-ten-meditation-depression
MAD GAINZ wrote:
This whole footwork thing is being blown out of proportion. It's not something JJ is/was doing wrong, it's just the way the O'Connell and Phillips want it because that set up works well with their offensive concepts. Kirk had to learn it when KOC got here, same for Dobbs, Hall, Mullens, etc. Just wanted to clarify this because I'm seeing countless articles using it to "slam" the kid.
I've seen more gotcha headlines this offseason for various garbage sites and fringe sports sites looking for views than ever. Do a Google search for JJ McCarthy and see how sites like Heavy, etc. twist a story to make a headline for less savvy fans to click on. Its nuts. Its like this not just for JJM, but anyone really. Caleb Williams is currently taking the brunt of it by having 'bad practices'....or contrarily, any rookie QB completing a 15 yard pass with no defenders is 'the NFL's next King'. lol. Sigh.
I really just started this thread to look at the other side of what the vast majority of fans think of as a very good rookie QB selection with excellent upside. I am a Michigan fan and don't want to get too close to the trees to not realize he has weaknesses. I actually feel I do a decent job of that with a kid I've been watching for a long time.
purplefaithful wrote:
Some time in the next few years, we'll be able to answer;
Would getting Maye have better than JJM + Turner?
But we weren't ever going to get Maye, that's the thing I think some fans aren't factoring in. I knew damn well NE was going to take a QB, they desperately needed one. The Patriots were never going to trade with anyone, Minnesota included. Washington wasn't moving. The question then becomes who will be better: Penix, JJM or Nix? That's what was in the reality wheelhouse to obtain.
purplefaithful wrote:
I agree re: Maye
Penix was never an option as he was drafted @8.
So does that leave JJ vs Nix?
No, cause all of these QB's will be measured vs each other for years regardless now that I think about it more.
My point on Penix was if they loved him, they could have realistically moved up to grab him somewhere between 5-7 IF they were worried. Atlanta's surprised, no doubt, but you get my gist. Nobody was getting Williams, Daniels and Maye other than Chicago, Washington and New England.
They'll be measured as a QB class more than who took them.
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