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#1 · May 10, 1:09 PM
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https://twitter.com/Vikings/status/1788998692181016656

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#2 · May 10, 2:10 PM
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MaroonBells wrote:

"O'Connell has said several times he thinks young QBs benefit from not needing to play right away, and the Vikings figure to be patient with McCarthy unless he shows enough mastery of their offense that there's no point in sitting him."

I hope it's more than just mastery of the offense. I might be the only one who thinks this, but I really hope they give him the full year to mature and develop physically, mentally, emotionally....maybe gain another 5-10 lbs. I think if we're exceedingly patient with young Jonathan James, it will pay off long term.


They have to.....and smart fans will realize this. He is going to need reps, a comfort level, understanding NFL corners and defenses, etc. But of course in the nutzo sports social media world, some fans will be calling him a bust if he doesn't start Week 1. KOC needs to stick to the plan and he will with JJM. He has to build real confidence. I don't think he needs to gain any weight, he looked big to me. If he's at 219 lbs-ish, he's good to go.
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#3 · May 11, 8:50 AM
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JJM was 219 lbs at the Combine. Not sure what he weighs right now. JMO, but he doesn't look skinny to me. Jayden Daniels looks skinny. Penix looks thinner than JJM. Jordan Love looks thinner. It will be interesting to see where the Vikings want him. My guess would be between 218 - 222 lbs.

Below is a pic of him at the Combine weighing 219 lbs. He's just one of those kids that is stronger than he might look. Thick ass and thighs, built strong.

edited May 11, 2024 9:25 AM
#4 · May 11, 9:00 AM
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comet52 wrote:

This is the main issue I saw on his college video.  He puts a lot of balls into tight and contested windows.  NFL defenders will turn these into incompletions and picks.  The possible throws shrink in the pro pass game and he will have to step up big in this area if he's going to succeed.


He's going to have to be more accurate in the NFL, zero doubt. This is part of his development. Its why KOC has a gameplan for him and no matter how much Darnold may suck ass (hopefully not), he'll not rush JJM into starting duty. Just like the HC for NE said about Drake Maye yesterday: 'He's got a lot of things to work on.... a LOT'. Maye is working on taking snaps from center because he didn't do much of it. At least JJM is beyond that stage. 

And the hard truth is for most of the HCs that took QBs: they weren't their first choices. But they might have been close and workable. Chicago got their first choice, that's the only team that did.
#5 · May 12, 6:02 AM
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There was a JJM throw from either Saturday or Sunday's practice that really showed his arm strength. I cannot for the life of me find it anywhere now......someone posted it on Twitter/X. Super tight spiral and it went from zero to 60 in a nano-second. I'll edit if I come across it. Its not anything Vikings.com did.

Also read Cine and Booth could be both cut outright? That 2022 Draft is just so messed up horrible.

edited May 13, 2024 6:14 AM
#6 · May 13, 6:09 AM
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Knucklehead wrote:


Releasing Cine outright makes no sense economically since his contract is guaranteed. The team would still owe him slightly over $2M. Signing another Safety even at the minimum would cost about $800K. Is the new guy going to provide $3M more value as opposed to keeping Cine? I doubt it. It would make more sense to keep Cine & have him inactive every week.


That tidbit was a Charley Walters special, so I guess take with a grain.
#7 · May 13, 7:13 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:


That was from Charlie Waters, so it's nonsense and he knows nothing. Are Booth and Cine on the bubble? Of course. And it sounds like the Vikings can save some beer money by releasing Cine. 

But keep in mind one thing. The Vikings didn't add a safety. At all. Not in free agency, not in the draft, not after the draft in UDFAs. Not a single one. Seems odd for a team whose depth chart features a 35 year old safety ahead of a player they intend to release.


I've heard the team might have plans for Jay Ward this year.
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